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Old 01-28-2003, 11:23 AM
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I would love to see a few legit paint marks like the ones discussed. I have looked at many leafs and have never seen this on an original. I have seen tags only. If someone can post a real unrestored car with a tag and some kind of paint mark I would like to see it. I photograph all types of inspection marks, writing etc. I have not seen this one. I think the Z/28 had the wrong spring perches didn't it?...BKH
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I would also like to see an original car (Nova) with these types of markings, I have only seen Fords with these 'location' markings. I have seen many unrestored Novas, some with as low as 5k and 6k miles on them, and never seen any paint markings on them - only the spring tags which were installed in front of the axle. The springs would have had the front bushing already pressed in when they were installed into the rear housing. So, wouldn't that be enough of an indication of which end went where? I'm just speculating, but why spend the extra time placing a paint mark where there is already a noticeable difference?

Personally, I have seen the blue (torqued) and white (inspected) markings on the front suspension, and cylinder heads (under the orange paint, white 'X's on each end, blue on the bolts). Has anyone seen these colors used elsewhere?
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Old 01-28-2003, 04:06 PM
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Marlin,
I think I sent you a PM on this already, but I will repeat it for others. I had blue inspection marks on the inside of my axle shafts. There was a picture of it in NNN. I also had a blue inspection mark on the rear end where the drive shaft connects to it. There also was a reddish orange inspection mark on my driveshaft, probably was orange originally. I also had a blue inspection mark on the Front Bearing Retainer on my 4 speed transmission. There also was a picture of that in NNN. It didn't show too well in those black & white pictures but the color pictures I have clearly show the inspection marks on the axles and transmission.
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BKH, you asked and you shall receive. The next three posts are of a blue mark, pink paint duab, and a yellow paint stripe. These are all unrestored 67 - 69 Camaros. My memory failed me on as to how the yellow was marked as I thought it was done like a Mustang but I was wrong. It did not have a spring tag on it and it was a LOS built 67 car. The assembly manuals in 67-68 show the paint stripe to the front of the car. My 69 manual is missing the spring installation pages so I could not check them right now. Also the 69 P&A manual lists what these colors are for on the 67's but not on the 68-69's. Each plant used its own way of identifying a spring and it changed throughout the year. Everyone restoring a car needs to research their car before starting the restoration for these reasons. Nothing is etched in stone, like the black tailpanels (remember) [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] ....................RatPack.............
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Thanks Rat Pack, When I talked to Tinnell he said that those paint dobs were correct! I personally did not know, but it looks like he was right. I was referring to Dave Belk's post on the 1969 Yenko that he posted for his friend.
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I am gald to see some real pictures, but let's see some of a unrestored 69 Yenko or COPO that the post was about. I have yet to see a tail panel on a Camaro that was not gloss. The reason I am questioning this is that so many times a restoration is follow the leader. Guys add all kinds of marks that were never there. I always take pictures of the odd stuff like you. If the restoration is done the way it was found I love it. I have see some crazy made up marks and I will bet you have too...BKH
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BKH, you are right, if the restoration is done properly it would done the way the car was found. There are a lot of cars that have been restored as "follow the leader" and they are wrong. Now as to pictures of COPOs or Yenkos with these spring markings, I do not have any. In your original post, which has been deleted, you stated "all Camaros" not the COPOs or Yenkos did not have them. However, I believe I have some of an SS396 that has them and those springs were no different than a COPO or Yenko: either BK or BM coded. Like I said earlier not all cars were marked this way and it depended upon which plant and what time of year the car was built. Research the car before restoration and document it.

To me the yellow car was done as "correct" as possible at the time of restoration. It is a nicely done over-restored car that most people like to see. Once the vinyl top is installed it should be correct. The paint daubs on the fronts of the springs can always be removed if the owner so decides. Not knocking the yellow car as to what was correct or not, I did notice that the spring tags were wrong and you did not mention that.

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Just a FYI, while researching springs on the Nova board, I saw paint stripe identification references in the 69 parts books for 68 and earlier leaf springs. Not all had them but many did. G.
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