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Old 12-23-2002, 12:42 AM
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------Whats allowed in the choices?I mean,if Cobras are allowed,everything is up in the air.
------I will say that an LS6 with headers,slicks and 4:56s would break into the 11s,but open headers arent in your question.Those are pretty stout numbers,but there are other cars to choose from.The right Buick Gran Sport could do some damage too.If you had to run thru the full factory exaust a ZL1 might be at a disadvantage.Same with a COPO.Exaust really cut them down a peg.Factory delivered Hemis never showed me much.But watch out if they had a cam change and compression bumped a tad.Back in 65/66,in street racing days we payed alot of attention to the way a Hemi sounded.you could tell a modified one!
------But my personal choice(if Corvettes are allowed)would be a 69 Corvette open chamber L88 automatic.You could only get them delivered with 3:55s,but they were bad boys.Throw a gear change in there with a little looser converter and watch out............Bill S.......ol red!
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Old 12-23-2002, 12:46 AM
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Old 12-23-2002, 12:56 AM
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BINGO! The 68 Hemi Dart, also known as the Elephant Dart, prepared by Hurst corporation, 55 built, sold thru the dealers bill of sale only, labled for race use only. Some may argue that not to be a musclecar since it was sold no title, yet it came through the dealer, straight to the track in the mid ten second bracket. They came with acid dipped fenders, no window regulators, no back seat, front clip in primer, rear wheel wells opened up, thin side glass, and slicks if you ordered them. Never before or after did one of the big three do anything like it. They also came with zero warranty. The guys at Hurst would beat the shock towers in with a hammer to make the Hemi fit. Ya Hoo! Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 12:58 AM
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Old 12-23-2002, 01:04 AM
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Belair, I will give special directions to Santa to drop an L-72 through your roof. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Motown
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Old 12-23-2002, 01:05 AM
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The Motion 454 Phase III Vega ran in the 9s.
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Old 12-23-2002, 01:10 AM
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Joe, question is, that would be a dealer built car would it not? I mean delivered thru the dealer with all the dealers of that automaker having the ability to recieve one, and also sanctioned by the automaker. I believe the Motion cars to be availible thru Motion, were they not? Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 01:41 AM
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I would say the 68 Hemi Dart/Cuda's as well, but the point of a factory built is in question as noted before.I don't believe it was a production car or sold as such.Note the disclaimer put on all cars produced.I don't recall if the body's/mods were ever DOT aproved in 68.Only NHRA sanctioned/approved. Hurst is a lot like Motion for a comparison sake.Big difference is the Mopars were sold thru or by Chrysler not Hurst.Kind of like Demmer Eng. and the Olds.Converted by Demmer,returned to Olds and sold thru Olds.I feel they were a type of factory assy. subcontracted by GM or Mopar.I feel the gray area in the Mopar camp is if they were ever sold to be street legal and licensed as such in 68.In my opinion they were the fastest,baddest cars in A/S (?) then and now.......Oh yeah,I'll still take a boat load of 454 Vegas....that's really insane.

Ps. I did build a 440 Mopar powered 78 Monza..those cars Rock and Roll with any Big Block. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]


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Old 12-23-2002, 01:18 AM
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Just to clarify, the Dart [and hemi Cudas] came with fiberglass fenders &amp; hood, and, "thin" [not acid dipped] doors. The one shock tower was relocated, but, professionally done.
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Old 12-23-2002, 01:21 AM
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Sixties, I hate to disagree, but the hood was fiberglass, fenders were light steel, and the shock towers were hammered. My brother worked there when the Darts were built and I bought mine from the owner of the company, Don Leith.
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