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Old 12-13-2002, 03:45 AM
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Well Said! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2002, 04:41 AM
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What if the car is one worth saving? What if the car was a Motion Camaro, (for example) Should it be thought of too far gone to restore or should it be saved?

Almost every Ferrari ever made is still on the road. This of course is due to the value of the cars. Now there are instances where almost the entire car has been recreated. At what point is the car a replica or clone and not original?

Take a look at the 1949 Ferrari Tipo 166 for an example:

http://www.symbolicmotors.com/framesets/page2.html
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Old 12-13-2002, 11:29 AM
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If a car is worth saving then save it. Just don't rebody the car to "save it" because in reality you buried the car you were trying to "save"!
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Old 12-13-2002, 12:13 PM
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the car that the vin# were welded to was also in need of resto,just wasn't cut in two by a pole/tree,this guy is a big ford guy and was doing every thing back to orginal(paint lines on susp,overspray)I know he had been working on it for 4 years last time I saw him(that was 8 years ago) it might not even be done now ,he wasn't building it to sell.

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Old 12-13-2002, 01:10 PM
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Hopefully this pic will post: In my town ( Historic ) people with houses on the National Historical Registry are not allowed to tear the house down no matter how bad it is. The theory I suspect is that the person who owns the house is but a temporary guardian and the history of the house will exist long after the owner is gone. All the time I find these houses being restored but all that really remains are the threshold and fireplace footing..Did Paul Revere still die in that same house? Went to check out the USS Constitution this summer...20% of the wood is original.

Take this car as a great example. By all accounts it is the backup 67 Indy Pacecar..It makes the titanic look solid. It is in my eyes a car worth saving absolutely..What may I ask are the opinions of you guys.
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Old 12-13-2002, 01:15 PM
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The car does not have an engine or trans but does have the correct rear
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Old 12-13-2002, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Original vs Correct,, New Body Acceptable?

I'm working pesently on a Jeep CJ7 with a Fiberglass Tubb
I'm moving the VIN of the orginal metal body to the fiberglass body [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
This is not a collector car.But the move is the same.
This is a legitimate reason [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
This is acceptable or it is unacceptable
Or this is a felony.

Eh
for a girl a rebody is acceptable or unaceptable

just kidding! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2002, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Original vs Correct,, New Body Acceptable?

Just for the record, I believe a car with replaced quarters is no longer an original car. We're not talking about original, but rather where acceptable practice stops, and unacceptable practice begins.

There is no accepted limitation to how much of a car can be replaced. The hobby says it's OK to replace the dash, where the VIN is located. Some say cut out and reweld the area around the VIN tag to the new dash panel. Same goes for the hidden partial VIN areas. It's OK to replace every other piece of the car, one piece or one "assembly" at a time.

So taken to the extreme, you have an original driveline Yenko, that was so rusty, that when you wrecked it, you destroyed every piece of sheet metal.

You pull the engine, tranny, and rear and put them aside.
Then you build a fixture to support the VIN tag area, and the two partial VIN stamp areas, and weld them to the fixture. You then cut away all the bad stuff, leaving only the three VIN areas suspended in thin air. Now you take a donor car position it where the original one was, cut out the three VIN areas, and weld the original ones in, just as you would if you were changing the dash panel, or firewall.

So, in the example above, we have not rebodied the car, we have replaced one large "assembly" [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

If that "assembly" is too big to be considered acceptable practice, and one piece at a time (or some lesser assembly) is considered acceptable, where's the line?

If you think I'm being rediculous, then I've made my point.


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