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I have only seen original selling dealer and shipping date information available through NICB. Never any option info and not all car's records are in the NICB database. It will be interesting to see what information is Jim finds after years of GM's denial that the info existed.
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Jim,
I know you are probably out there on the sidelines watching this thread. I just wanted to let you know I appreciate all the work you are putting into this. Please make sure you charge a good amount of money for these docs. Afterall, you are doing all the backbreaking work.(It probably is backbreaking, think of how much paper there must be, or maybe your eyes are getting sore if its microfiche.) Thanks again, Jason [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] |
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Jason,
That was a nice gesture thanking Jim for his work. He is aware of this thread but is a very busy guy who is focused, one concern is for every question he may answer it will only create a 100 more and it this point even he does not have all the answers. Considering he is the one responsible for the Pontiac documentation it will be likely the Chevy documentation will be similar consisting of build sheet, option codes, originating dealer etc. Have patience gentlemen and lets give him room to breathe, the info is coming, I speak to him on a regular basis so I will keep you updated as to the progress. If all goes well it wont be long, now you know what to tell your wife to get you for Christmas! Jim is a great guy who is putting forth a dedicated effort on this project, all those with genuine cars will be overjoyed at the results. Thanks, MotownMadman [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]
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Motown,
I did not in any way mean to incinuate that I wanted Jim to respond. I just felt that with all the questions that had been asked on this thread not many have mentioned all the hard work he must be doing. Everyone needs a pat on the back from time to time. Its funny the way words can be interpreted in threads like this. So, once again I will say, you're doing a great job Jim, take a breather and have a beer! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] Jason |
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Jason,
Amazing how things get crossed up. I was actually paying you a compliment for your sincere thanks. Being one of the greastest Chevy buffs of all Jim completely understands the serious collectors as from this site and their excitement at the idea of all the speculation being laid to rest. I am just as anxious as anyone else, this is like Indiana Jones finding the Lost Ark of The Covenant or the Holy Grail. I have a few cars myself that have been like the who dunnit butler mystery. There are many cars out there that dont fit with the common production practices of the time, many are assembled camp fire stories, while others may be special order one off examples which will change the accepted way of thinking. I was sincerely thanking you Jason for taking the time to say thanks, that is the kind of thing that makes it all worth while for Jim. With Pontiac as an example, this is really not a great profit effort, after expenses and paying rights the profit does not come near the effort. I would think that the primary motivation to Jims actions is knowing he is making a difference in cleaning up this hobby a bit, as well as elevating the pride we all have in our true classics. I thought it was rather classy on your part when you posted your note of thanks. I remember feeling the same excitement a few months before I got my drivers license, and a few months before legal drinking age. It is almost like being a little kid again at Christmas time going nuts waiting to open the presents. Jim just loves the Santa Claus bit, a little to skinny though, but just give it a few more beers.., whoops, I mean years! I know youre grinnin Jim! Plans changed, I will be seeing Al first of the week, but I will see you this weekend at the races. Thanks, Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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I sure hope all this comes to be. What a significant achievement. I think it would be just fascinating to search through the records from Chevy's glory days. I'm sure the feeling of brining these docs to light is plenty rewarding, enough to make up for the huge time investment it requires. Thank you Jim!
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Motown,
I have one question, what kind of fee is there going to be to Document a car??? Thnx Bud. |
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Bud,
I cant say as it is not my project, but if I had to take a stab in the dark I would guess it would be similar to the Pontiac project of $35, but it could be more as it may be a great deal more research. I would not think it would matter much considering the values of the cars in todays market, what would it be worth to document a classic vs always having the speculation that it may not be real? How much more is a documented car worth over one that is not? The fact that the info becomes available will cut the existing numbers of every model by eliminating the counterfeit, so everyone who owns a real car benefits as values go up when the number of existing cars go down. A gold spanish coin was worth 20 times as much prior to Mel Fisher finding the Atocha, so many coins were found they ended up on home shopping club. As supply decreases, demand and value increase, thereby making the documentation of the true cars priceless in the overall market. I have several I will pay whatever it takes to document. Jim and his crew are not out to make money, they are out to make the hobby more legitamite and honest. That is hard to put a value on. I have no way of knowing the cost, I am just standing back and cheering them on. Everyone benefits except the guys building fake cars. It dont get no better than that. Thanks, Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
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Motown,
I was referred here from another site because of the discussion regarding the build sheet (potential) availablity for Chevys. I had to register because this topic is very close to my heart. Specifically, your comment about Jim trying to clean up the hobby really touched a chord I've been playing since '82. I currently operate a Documentation Service through our local club for '58-'64 Chevrolets (full size). I believe we have the best method available today to document the originality of one of these cars. We did it without any help from Chevy. We did it painstakingly by "interviewing" many original cars (mostly in junk yards, because we found those cars tell no lies.) If you want to know more about our project and the service we offer, there's a story about it on our club web site: jerseylategreats.com I hope Jim is successful, for the good of the hobby. In the meantime, I'll keep trying to do what I can for the "good" in the small "passenger car" part of the hobby. I'm glad I found this site. Please don't view this thread as a solicitation for our service - merely an introduction. Verne. |
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Welcome to this website Stranger...........I mean Verne.
Glad to have you aboard. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] |
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