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HEY GUYS
This is some very interesting reading but GEEEZZ,Damn glad I just have a plain old Chevrolet Chevelle SS,only manfactured by Chevrolet and sold by Chevrolet.HA HA HA I don't have to worry about all the other POOP!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] "JUST FUNNIN YOU GUYS PLEASE DON'T BASH ME!! Bobby |
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Stefano & Kurt:
I don't need to see any agreements/contracts between Yenko SportsCars and the participating dealers, the MSO already states that those cars are Yenko's. The fact that Yenko ordered them makes them Yenko's, that Fencl-Tufo sold a given car tells me it was dealer transferred. We know it was transferred because we have a Delivery Sheet with the Delayed Floor Plan Privilege paperwork, and that's the paperwork trail that I like to see. Douglas did lose the exclusive Yenko dealership status in Chicago, there were approx. 6 Yenko dealers in '70 - Douglas wasn't one of them. I'm not sure I believe the 'Dead Sea Scrolls' either, there is a lot of misunderstanding with them as well, just like the evolution theories etc..... Kurt: QUOTE: "What is a Yenko anyway? ....I'm not sure why the source of the car would be in the definition." I feel that the source of the car is exactly what defines a Yenko. Maybe that statement is what summarizes this whole discussion. I feel the source defines a Yenko, do you feel that the marketing package defines a Yenko?
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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Gentlemen, I do believe the the equine in question has been pummled into extinction. Just kidding, Us new guys are learning ALOT! This is better than WWF Monday night Nitro. A good "broo ha ha" just shows you have a pulse and a passion. I guess Yenko-Douglas will have to fall in to the category of religion and politics as things that can't be disscussed in a civil mannor in a public fourm. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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You mean people are actually reading this stuff? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
My information is historical facts from the 60s. I am not an uninformed magazine writer trying to sell copy and I am not a manure spewing auctioneer trying to pump up the value of the cars. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] The information stated about the SCCA and ACCUS and EPA are documented facts. I forgot to mention one important fact that is stated in Chevrolet paperwork from 1969. Chevy lists the COPO options with a code number and short description. This is a quote from the list "Option 9737 - Sports Car Conversion/Yenko/ " Chevrolet used Don's name to describe the COPO option. That means something to me. The only other dealer mentioned in this paperwork is Fred Gibb. Yenko and Gibb deserve credit for the work they did to get these hi performance Chevrolets out of the factory, on the road, on the race tracks, and into the hearts and minds of the fans. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img] |
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JoeC, you may have just hit the nail on the head then. If the Douglas cars are double COPO 9737 cars, then they are "Yenkos" according to Chevrolet. Now just add the striping and Yenko window sticker and you truly have a Yenko. The other 9737 cars ordered by other dealers did not receive the striping and were not marketed as Yenko's and did not pay royalty to Yenko so they obviously would not be Yenko's. Again, this is my opinion, but the 9737 should really be a part of the Yenko definition.
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69 Z28 JL8, #'s match - being restored |
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![]() Other people have questioned the Mecum ad besides me. You also said the ad was going to be changed and it is still there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img] <blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr> I spoke to Dana on several occassions, in order to modify the info. on his site .It is not meant to decieve and will hopefully be adjusted very soon. <hr></blockquote> |
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JeffH- other dealers were allowed to ordered 9737 Camaros both L72 Camaro and Chevelle and ZL1s. That does not mean they are Yenkos.
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Jeff,
I have seen Copies of GM documents over the years which clearly show the 9737 option as "Yenko". Don created this option package and it was his own. The reason Berger had info on this package is due to inside info. from GM back to them. This is one of the reasons why the Berger cars are also very special and historically significant. Their order od 40 Camaros and 10 Chevelles and even ZL1s also add to the Legacy of Don Yenko. Since Berger was not a Yenko Dealer and thus did not sell his cars to the public as such, no one should reasonably question or even conclude that the Beger Cars were Yenkos. |
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Stefano:
I don't mean to put any words in Jack's mouth, I'm only trying to figure out why such a big dealer, in a great demographic market, with an exclusive Yenko SportsCars distribution agreement, would not continue throughout '69 by ordering any more 427 Yenko cars from Yenko, nor into '70 when the Yenko Deuces were selling like griddlecakes, for equally good profit. I don't know why it wouldn't make good business sense to continue the 'exclusive dealer' arrangement unless something else really went sour between the two. I propose that something did go wrong enough for Don to revoke the exclusive dealer deal. I speculate that someone (long story) from GM let the cat out of the bag with Berger. Berger ended up with some 427 cars without any Yenko stripes. Douglas found out the COPO # from Berger and ordered some for himself. It's a great idea for Douglas, but the public keeps showing up wanting these Yenko cars that he was the exclusive dealer for, and wouldn't buy the 427 plain cars. Douglas calls up Yenko's parts guys and orders a bunch of stripe sets, and they are sent to him. Don is not exactly sitting around watching the spare parts shipments, so they are already in Douglas' hands when he finds out. Don obviously realizes what is going to happen here, he knows that the COPO word is out via Berger. Don is not a happy camper, and threatens to jump in his plane and pay a visit to Hinsdale, and sue Douglas. The two 'settle out of court' so to speak, by Douglas paying some type of inflated price to Don for the stripes, and Don releases him from the exclusive status in Chicago. End of my Theory, and I feel that there was no formal agreement between the two for Jack to stripe COPO cars and selling them as Yenko's on Don's behalf. I feel that if Don could have gotten the stripes back he would have, but couldn't since there was nothing wrong with the stripe purchase. I have another theory as well, but I'm tired of typing! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Thoughts?
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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Good theory Marlin, There seems to be no disagreement that Don Y was upset about what transpired. With good reason.
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