1966 Yenko Stinger for sale

[Kurt S]

We were voting? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
I've known about the Douglas cars for about 4-5 years now, after being made aware of them by another member of this board.

I agree that Douglas Yenkos are Yenkos that were authorized by Yenko and built and striped with his consent. The corroborated evidence show that Don and Jack agreed that Jack could order the cars, apply the Yenko striping, and market them as Yenkos.

What is a Yenko anyway? My definition would be: A COPO that was specially decalled as a Yenko and marketed as such. They basically were a marketing ploy for a special model.
The Douglas Yenko cars clearly fit that definition. The car supported the marketing and they were authorized and supported by Yenko. I can't see that it matters if they were striped in PA or IL.
BTW, nice research on the Douglas cars, Stefano.

Attached is a pic of my 69 BB, didn't realize I had a Douglas Yenko til now. But the POP says Georgia??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

Kurt,
You can have the first authorized official Jack Douglass COPO*Yenko Camaro replica! Cool car, what engine?

Can we get an official rendering from CRG on the topic, or maybe a concenssus?

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Kurt;
QUOTE: "corroborated evidence show that Don and Jack agreed". "The car supported the marketing and they were authorized and supported by Yenko".

What corroberating evidence of an agreement are you referring to? I have yet to see any evidence??

QUOTE: "What is a Yenko anyway? My definition would be:..." I would add to your definition that the car was ordered by and MSO'd to Yenko Chev. just like a Baldwin Motion car was ordered by and MSO'd to Baldwin Chev.

[Stefano]

We understand the distinction between a Motion Car and a Baldwin /Motion car. They are similar yet different and the sequence of events which seperates the two are not in question.

Evidence can be other than written. Written evidence can also be wrong or misstated or even slanted. This will also apply to vailid business contracts. I would say some of the evidence was emperical.

The market today has established that one is more valuable in a similar situation than the other, but that gap is closing ,as any cars which Joel Rosen built are both desirable and rare and maintain a unique and important part of Super Car History.

Is a Motion car not a Super Car in your eyes because it does not have an MSO from Baldwin. Or a Harrell car from Gibb or Courtesy not a Super car because the MSO was not to Harrell?

[Kurt S]

How many conversations can we have at one time?!?

To answer Marlin: "What corroberating evidence of an agreement are you referring to? I have yet to see any evidence??"
I'm not sure anything less than the Dead Sea Scrolls will fit your evidence requirements. How many contracts between any of the dealers mentioned have survived all these years? Much less one that was for less than a year.
Evidence? There are statements from employees of both dealerships and one dealership owner, all of which jive surprisingly well. There's the fact that Douglas didn't lose the Chicago area Yenko distributorship. There's the fact that Yenko sold the stripes to Douglas. This is all evidence, none of it is heresay (well it is now since none of the people quoted actually posted the info).

"QUOTE: "What is a Yenko anyway? My definition would be:..." I would add to your definition that the car was ordered by and MSO'd to Yenko Chev."
I'm not sure why the source of the car would be in the definition. It is not what defined the product. The Nickey/Thomas scenario is similar, and the cars are still considered the Nickeys.
I said a 69 Yenko Camaro is : 'A COPO that was specially decalled as a Yenko and marketed as such.' This same statement can be changed to fit the Nickeys, Harrells, Yenkos, BMW's, etc. The source of the product was not what inferred value to the original customer, what did was the marketing of it as a Yenko (or Nickey, et al) and the inherent value associated with that name and what it represented.

Mike,
I agree Yenko was not a manufacturer, but per the sanctioning organization's rules, they could be considered one. Hey, they made those rules, people just worked around them. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Stefano,
My car is a L35 car.

[BBIGG BLOCK 396]

HEY GUYS

This is some very interesting reading but GEEEZZ,Damn glad I just have a plain old Chevrolet Chevelle SS,only manfactured by Chevrolet and sold by Chevrolet.HA HA HA I don't have to worry about all the other POOP!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
"JUST FUNNIN YOU GUYS PLEASE DON'T BASH ME!!
Bobby

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Stefano & Kurt:
I don't need to see any agreements/contracts between Yenko SportsCars and the participating dealers, the MSO already states that those cars are Yenko's. The fact that Yenko ordered them makes them Yenko's, that Fencl-Tufo sold a given car tells me it was dealer transferred. We know it was transferred because we have a Delivery Sheet with the Delayed Floor Plan Privilege paperwork, and that's the paperwork trail that I like to see. Douglas did lose the exclusive Yenko dealership status in Chicago, there were approx. 6 Yenko dealers in '70 - Douglas wasn't one of them.

I'm not sure I believe the 'Dead Sea Scrolls' either, there is a lot of misunderstanding with them as well, just like the evolution theories etc.....


Kurt:
QUOTE: "What is a Yenko anyway? ....I'm not sure why the source of the car would be in the definition." I feel that the source of the car is exactly what defines a Yenko. Maybe that statement is what summarizes this whole discussion. I feel the source defines a Yenko, do you feel that the marketing package defines a Yenko?

[lowmile]

Gentlemen, I do believe the the equine in question has been pummled into extinction. Just kidding, Us new guys are learning ALOT! This is better than WWF Monday night Nitro. A good "broo ha ha" just shows you have a pulse and a passion. I guess Yenko-Douglas will have to fall in to the category of religion and politics as things that can't be disscussed in a civil mannor in a public fourm. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[JoeC]

You mean people are actually reading this stuff? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

My information is historical facts from the 60s. I am not an uninformed magazine writer trying to sell copy and I am not a manure spewing auctioneer trying to pump up the value of the cars. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
The information stated about the SCCA and ACCUS and EPA are documented facts. I forgot to mention one important fact that is stated in Chevrolet paperwork from 1969. Chevy lists the COPO options with a code number and short description. This is a quote from the list
"Option 9737 - Sports Car Conversion/Yenko/ "
Chevrolet used Don's name to describe the COPO option. That means something to me. The only other dealer mentioned in this paperwork is Fred Gibb. Yenko and Gibb deserve credit for the work they did to get these hi performance Chevrolets out of the factory, on the road, on the race tracks, and into the hearts and minds of the fans. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

Marlin,
Now you are manufacturing info. Jack Douglass Did not have his rights to be a Yenko Dealer pulled out from under him. He gave them up voluntarilly , as to him the Deuce was not a car he wanted to try market. To keep the sYc rights he had to order a large quantity of Deuces and Choose not to do so.

Ed Schoenthaller who took on the Deuces at Fencil Tufo also tried to get sYc to set him up in 1969, while he was at Briganse Chevrolet. He was informed that Jack Douglass Chevrolet, Inc. maintained the exclusive territory.

It is the "fact" that no other Dealer existed in the state of Illinios, much less Chicago Metro For SYC while Jack Douglass Chevrolet was a Yenko Dealer.

If you lived in Chicago area and wanted a Yenko you went to Douglass Chevrolet to purchase one, this is the point I have been trying to make all along. It happened.

JoeC,
Reasonable people can agree to disagree ,to bash someone who was there,has seen ,owned and driven the cars as well as worked hand in hand with Jack Douglass, yet maintains an opinion different from yours, just simply reflects your true character and I am glad to see that you posted it for all to see. Thanks