1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn

[Rat_Pack]

Souperhigh, congrats on the rare find! Check your email for the picture I sent you.

Mark, what magazine & issue did you find your car in? I envy you on your find also. Lemans Blue/blue interior is a beautiful combo in 68. Yours is Lemans Blue with a white stripe on the hood isn't it? One bad boy Camaro....................RatPack................. .......

[mhassett]

Rat Pack, I have been buying every magazine on E-Bay that I can get and I found mine in (January 1969 issue of RODDER and SUPER STOCK on pages 13-14-16-17) a guy named Bill Mitchell test driving it on the street with the hood off. I heard there are ONLY (2) Bladwin Motion Camaro's-Phase III with a 3rd BM being a Conversion that someone had already owned. I agree with Maurice that Only Joel knows and WISH he would talk Once and For All.. Also on page 9 thru 12 there is a big story on the other '68 which is a Rally Sport--I thinks this one belongs to Kevin S.???
Rat Pack yes mine is the Lemans Blue with blue interior the Stinger Hood with white striping.
Mark [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

Mark,
Bill Mitchell was Joel's mechanic. He went on to contribute to Racing and Hot Rodding in many ways. Bill is still active and very well known for his Crate Engines.

It would be cool to contact him and see if he still remembers the Camaro. I don't see how he could forget it [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[Souperhigh]

Stefano,
Check your email!
Thanks

[JoeC]

In the June 67 Cars magazine editorial Marty Schorr writes about test driving a 427 Nickey Camaro, the L88 Motion Camaro cover car, and a second 427 Motion Camaro with 435 hp tri power, 4sp, 4:10 gear, vinyl top, blue paint. He even has somewhat of a warning that these cars should not be sold to inexperienced drivers.

[Souperhigh]

Gentlemen, something is rotten in Denmark. The 1967 Motion Camaro I bought at Auburn has problems, possibly even legal ones. It does have a letter from Joel Rosen stating that it is a real Motion car, but last year it had a letter from Joel Rosen stating it was NOT a Motion car. We have talked to the origional first buyer, and he bought it new in Oklahoma City at Hudiburg Chevrolet in the third week of June 1967. The car was made the second week of May 1967.Yes , we now have a problem!!!!!How can Joel say this car came from Baldwin and is a Motion car, when last year he wrote it was not.And in five weeks from build date to selling date off new car lot in Oklahoma?????Gentlemen, maybe we put to much importance in a letter from Joel Rosen,which received his fee from both previous owners. This is a $100,000 deal that has gone south, I have the car now , waiting for the end result, with my check having had payment stopped!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

[COPO]

Sorry to hear the latest news. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Being a BMotion owner, I'm certainly interested in the outcome of how 2 vastly different letters might have been issued. In the event of not having original paperwork on a BMotion car other than Joel's letter I think it is critical to have an NICB report showing the original selling dealership to be Baldwin Chev. Though not conclusive proof, it goes a long way. Hopefully at a minumum, you end up financially whole. Keep us informed of the outcome.

[Souperhigh]

It was the NCIB report that found the origional dealership, to be Hudipold Chevrolet in Oklahoma City and we now know the list of all the former owners of the car, and have talked to all but one who was killed .In saying the car was unverifiable last year, Joel stated the car had come from Kline Chevrolet in Va.

Doesn't surprise me. I was interested in a motion corvette that Joel once tried to purchase, and could not. The owner told me that Joel felt he had bought the car out from under him. The owner then could not get the car documented, nor could I. I did however pay up the 1500 bucks, and 2 weeks later, got a "no it's not." I wanted a written document stating that it was not, with the vin. #. Never got it. Who knows, it might be a documented car in the future! I still love the motion cars, they are kick a--!!.

[sixtiesmuscle]

Re NICB reports, I also have received several different "originl selling dealer" names on the same car, so, I don't find that unbelievable. I have had to request the info until you get someone who is willing to take the time & interest to do it right. Sad, but true in my experience. Maybe the owners that sold the car at Auburn came up with paperwork, like a bogus NICB report, phoney Motion work orders, etc., and used that to sway Joel. We all know that paperwork doesn't exist on all of his cars, so, sometimes it's got to be put together piece by piece. I am certain this will get ironed out. Hopefully the bad guys will pay an appropriate price. Two things for sure; in my opinion, Joel would never knowingly verify a bogus car, and, because of this, it will now be even harder to get him to verify the real ones. He is a man of integrity and $1500 will not cause him to go against that.