Trans Am Racers

[redvetracr]

I am sorry to disagree BUT you absolutely have to have pre`73 race history to race with the SVRA at Mid-Ohio, Watkins Glen and VIR in group 6. The SVRA Road America event is "open" as are the other two R/A vintage events although the fastest vintage group 6 cars in the country usually ALL show up at R/A in July for the BRIC. I also believe (for some strange reason) all cars with "Shelby`s" name on them are considered "race cars" and don`t need race history to compete in SVRA. You also are not going to compete in any historic Trans-Am reunion events on the west coast as they require SCCA Trans-Am history NOT just SCCA regional/national pre`73 history. The "price of admission keeps out the riff-raff". ...redvetracr

[MotownMadman]

I am certainly not going to argue with someone who knows what they are talking about, and it sounds like you do. I am new enough to this sport that I am learning as I go along. Maybe the "Loophole" you are referring to as far as "Shelby" is what has been confusing me, I was basing my conclusion on the 67 Shelby Group II #68, which was the prototype with no race history, and if what you say is true about Shelby cars being raced with no history while others cant doesnt seem quite fair. I have a mountain of vintage trans am paperwork I aquired, from what I have seen so far I should be able to help out some guys if it is questionable as to if their car had race history or not. I have nothing to worry about with my car as it was raced the first 10 races of 68 by Horst Kwech, Parnelli Jones, David Pearson, and Dan Gurney. My car will be on the auction block next August by Russo and Steele in Monterey, same weekend as the Vintage race and Fords 100th anniversary in racing.

[Jeff H]

I was under the impression that a car had to have the SCCA (certification or plate) on the rollbar showing that the vehicle was actually raced back in the day. I guess that helps keep out the riff-raff, but there could be a lot of cars that were built back then that never officially entered an event that could still be in hiding. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[MotownMadman]

Jeff, There are a LOT of cars that are missing from the TA history, when these cars were registered for an event they were registered with there VIN number so it is possible to go back in the records and track down a specific car. Many didnt have titles, but all had a manufactuer VIN and some like Shelbys also had a # from Kar Kraft stamped in the roll bar as well as other locations. I will get with your friend and see if I can track down his VIN having been entered in any races, which will also provide vital information as to owner, team, etc. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[FIAracer]

Hello- I'm new to this site. Thanks go out to Motownmadman for telling me about it and I plan to join in on the T/A Racers topic soon.
Steve-

[Jeff H]

How's it going Steve. Just don't tell these guys you like Mustangs! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[FIAracer]

Jeff H- Hmm. Would it help if I mentioned I've owned a 67 RS Conv, 68 Camaro, 67 L79 Malibu, 72 Chevelle wagon race car tow vehicle with a big block/TH400 and plans for another Camaro in the near future?
Steve-

[MotownMadman]

Nice stab Jeff, cant say I wouldnt have done the same myself. All BS aside though, I have been a Chevy performance fanatic all my life and have owned and still do own some nice examples. You cant tell me that if came across a Shelby Team TA Mustang you wouldnt at least give it some respect? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Besides, from the financial standpoint I will be able to buy a few top dollar Chevys from the proceeds of this old Ford [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] By the way Vern, I do have the car and the prints, oh how news travels! Steve, welcome to the site, I notice you did not go in to any detail about that super rare Camaro, I guess all in good time, eh?

[MotownMadman]

By the way, any of you guys want a set of Mini-Lite wheels you may want to contact our new member Steve, aka FIAracer, it seems he is the National Distributor? for Mini Lites, something like that, sorry steve if I got the title wrong. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

[redvetracr]

The "plate" you refer to was a brass tag riveted on (Trans-Am cars) and easily switched (yes there are scam artists in vintage racing) Race results, dated pictures, SCCA log books are all items of verification. Things get tricky with log books as they were just starting to be used 71-72 and the SVRA wants pre`73 history but anything raced in any type of SCCA (wheel to wheel) competition should have a log book AND the corresponding number stamped in the roll bar (main hoop) ..redvetracr