1970 Nova factory front shocks

[Nova Research Project]

NOCOPO,

I could email the sheet, but that would spoil my fun and research. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Since you have a Fisher Body Sheet (White 8.5 x 4 inches with 1st CARD, 2nd CARD, etc down the side) the spreadsheet would not help you unless you knew the codes. I do not know all of them, but if you let me ask the questions then we might be able to get close. Once we get as far as we can I will send you the finished BODY BROADCAST COPY and CHASSIS BRAODCAST COPY file.

What do you think?
Greg

[Kurt S]

What's the goal for recreating a broadcast sheet?
I think that there is little benefit and large downside (esp 2-3 owners later when it's believed to be a copy of the real one).

[Nova Research Project]

Kurt,

My goal is to collect enough data to help when restoring a car. See my post above dated 06/27/02 about the Camaro Research Group. The spreadsheet is NOT a repoduction. I made no attempt at getting it to print like the original. There is already someone on the net who will sell you a Window Sticker. I think there is one who does buildsheets, too. I am not trying to sell anything or create false documents. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

What I am trying to do is collect enough information about how Novas were built. Then use that information to help restorers. It could answer the quesions like "If a have a 350SS Yenko what tag goes on the master cylinder bail?" Information collected from original cars is valuable for the restorer. I think the buildsheets covers the majority of the items or is at least a start. If I can provide a spreadsheet as payment for the information collected does that hurt?

NNN had an information survey in every issue for a year (granted it was 10 years ago). Only a handfull of people bothered to fill it out and send it in. The Corvette, Camaro, and Chevelle guys have tons of books and information available. Why not us Nova guys? I understand your question. I am I missing something? Other than NNN, a few web sites, or this site there is limited documented facts available to us.

Greg (hopfully not sounding defensive )

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Hey Greg;
I think your motives are pure, and it sounds like you would be providing a similar service for the Nova guys that the Camaro, Vette and Chevelle guys already have. I'm sure you realize that trying to cover '62-'79 Novas would be a huge undertaking!! I know that us Yenko Nova guys have traveled far and wide to see cars that are in original condition in order to determine the stickers, markings, routings etc.... of the little details. I have kept a list of those types of things for the COPO Novas, but obviously only distribute it to the guys with real cars - otherwise it's perfect info for a scam-clone! Most of the codes that I have seen on the Nova broadcast sheets were decipherable using the Nova option list (s), but it's the items that are not on the broadcast sheets that are difficult.

Don't look too hard for the proper code on the bail sticker on a '350SS Yenko Nova' - there wasn't any since Yenko's aren't Super Sports [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Nova Research Project]

Marlin,

Right now I am only focusing on 1970 (or 69-72 since they are similar) since that is what I have. This started because I could not find the information and I like this hobby. Maybe I am too picky about the way I am restoring my Nova. I agree that option codes can help, what the do not do is help with how they looked. and if the part number is right. COPO's are special and I am in agreement about not letting everything out of the bag. I am collecting information. I have not got to the point of debating what to publish. Buildsheets was a way to start.

350SS Yenlo Boy your good [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] , I was trying to lighten the tone of my note and wanted to see if anyone noticed. It was also to prove a point.

Lastly my point is not recreating buildsheets, but cataloging facts in a uniform manner. This may not be the perfect example but here goes.... Like what was the code for a speedo adapter for a muncie? Were the letters stamped on it? Was it a paint daub? We know the part#, but how did the assembly line worker know what one to use? It was on buildsheet so did it makes a difference, right? These are easier to track than was the bell housing painted or not. Both important one is easier to track and prove that others.

Greg

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

G;
I understand what you are trying to do, and I think it's a good idea. There are many in the Nova community with nicely restored cars that lack that level of detail - mainly because they don't have the info.

So, what are the details on the speedo adapter? Do you happen to have an assy drawing? (I could use one, since mine is still not working properly), what are the inspection markings? etc....

Inquiring minds! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

[Nova Research Project]

Marlin,

I was looking at the pics of Dave Belk's 1970 Yenko. I was looking for applicable facts to my car when I read your reply. I know there is a code box on the buildsheet for it, yet Dave's does not have a letter code and I did not see any paint dabs (BW pic make it hard to tell) so..... How did the line know what was what? I used it for an example since Daves car looks so well done. I know they did not use adapters on auto cars. ........

Well, now that I am digging deeper, maybe this was not the best example. Close ratio used one part number the non close ratio use another part number. Do you want the numbers? The AM is too generic. I do have speedo gear charts from the P&A book if that helps. Greg

[NOCOPO]

Greg, I have found that all the info on the broadcast sheet I have is already simple documented info. There is, however some numbers on the sheet that I don't know to include a black crayon circle in the middle of the sheet for no apparent reason. The car I have is a 6cyl PG. I hope it's helpful to backup this type of information, especially from low mileage cars. Someday I hope to have a Supercar, but for now I just want to learn all I can and help others to learn as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Nova Research Project]

NOCOPO;

I still would like to work with you to discover more about your car. You can be a test case for the research if that is OK with you. We can either do it on the board or off line until we establish the facts. We can step through your car and see how the process might work and how difficult it maybe. I will provide you with the results and file the rest. I will get back to you after the 22nd.

Thanks!
Greg