Anyone know of a Fathom Blue '68 DICK HARRELL Chevelle?

[fpcopo]

I just want to add that Kevin's website is one of the most informative ones I've seen.
I think it is good of him to share these cars with us. Frank

[PxTx]

I may be the only one who feels this way, but I think this thread has been good for the group. Kind of like a system of checks and balances. I just hate to see all of this scrutiny keep people from posting. Gosh knows there are already more than a few guys "in the know" of these cars that refuse to post here.

The fact is, Kevin is are a powerful collector who's capable of finding some of the rarest cars as well as their supporting documentation. Not that I am revealing anything new here, but there are these "urban legends" that float around this board. You know... about the guy who got a hold of certain information about "Supercar X" and later made arrangements to purchase the car- which quickly becomes a fully documented and very desirable car.

I am myself, curious to know what Kevin found with Dan's VIN#. Would you mind sharing this info Kevin, or at least the steps you took if you couldn't find anything?

Just ask Marlin how nice it is to have someone find the supporting information to the supercar you own. I'm sure finally receiving his POP felt darn good. Surely we hope that if anyone uncovers additional info on our cars, they would choose to share it with the present owner.

None of us want to be the guy in the "urban legend" who unknowingly sells a car to someone holding the unobtainable supporting documentation for our car. The truth is what most of these stories are based upon and history will repeat itself. I think these guys are justifiably cautious. I feel that all of the concerns addressed here by both Dan and the Bowtie Gang are legitimate, and I do not fault them for openly expressing them.

I want to make it clear that I consider Dan a friend. Since I first met him, he too has been a person of integrity and quickly earned my respect. He is very supportive and enthusiastic to help when he can- provided he doesn't feel that he's being taken advantage of. I think it is a shame the way Dan has been attacked here. I find it much easier to relate to Dan and his position than Kevin's. Looking at it from Dan's perspective, he is justified. Hopefully those who know or support Dan have at least shared your support with him outside of this group.

For those who have never met Dan or disagree with him, challenging him to a face to face confrontation is not in any of our best interests as it only serves as instigation for additional conflict. I do support any type of gentleman like debate that may continue as it helps to define who each of us really is- probably better than any self written profile could.

Best regards to all,

Paul Tholey

[Belair62]

Paul I don't know Kevin,Bowtie Gang or Dan...I think part of the problem was the way things wer "typed" not spoken.Sometimes you can't tell whether the typed word comes off being cocky. Bowtie came off as kind of cocky in my opinion.Probably unintentional but thats what happens sometimes.I don't know Dan either...I asked him offline for a bit of info to identify a "real" big block 68 Chevy II because he knew what he was talking about on the subject.The response I got back offline was rather unusual.If you don't want to help someone out just say so or don't say anything.No need to make it personal.No one should have to kiss anyones a** around here to get info or help.Since most of us don't know each other personally, you can only base your impressions on responses posted.Lets move on now.......

[Edited by Belair62 (10-28-2001 at 07:09 PM).]

[SuperCars]

Paul, I disagree with you 100%. It was Dan's off-line emails that were malicious and intentionally meant to harm me with vindictive comments to Bow Tie Gang and the other members of this board. Since when is this type of conduct to be considered gentleman-like and good discussion. I call it backstabbing. Additionally, I guess I read Bow Tie Gang's posts differently than you also, as I felt Bow Tie Gang was belligerent in his postings. It was Dan prompting him behind the scenes as well; how can you justify that. I don't think Dan has been attacked without reason. He has prompted all comments himself from his own postings.

Dan has taken a personal vendetta against me over 71 B/M Camaro car purchase I was every bit justified in doing. I considered myself first in line for that 71 B/M having attempted to buy it previously. Good grief, this transaction had nothing to do with Dan either, so why is it his mission to get involved. Furthermore when the second 71 Baldwin Motion of equal quality went unsold, it reconfirmed that I was the only buyer.

As far as Dan's VIN #; my only reason writing it down was trying to help Dan in the event I had a call from Joel or if I ever had occasion to call him. Joel has called me in the past. This has happened several times before my phone conversation with Dan. Joel's calls were to see if I was interested in various B/M corvettes and other cars. I thought if that were to occur again, that perhaps I could see if I could help Dan by getting a yes or no from Joel. But I have not talked to Joel since getting Dan's VIN. It is Dan's car and not mine so I didn't have any urgent reason to call Joel.

Even if I were to get a confirmation from Joel about Dan's car today, I would pass it on to him free of charge. i would do this even though I detest what he has done. I am in the hobby for the love of cars, not to make money or rip someone off.

I hate this thread continuing, as it is like beating a dead horse. But I disagree with Paul's intrepretation of this thread wholeheartedly.

[NWYENKO]

What is an "urban legend"?? Kevin, I think you are wasting your time trying to explain anything to these 2 or 3 guys. This thread started off bad and has not gotten any better!!

[Charley Lillard]

Don't make me post more Dog pictures.......I think we should all calm down and then go over to Kevin's and drive all his cars.

[YenkoYS100]

That dog looks too cool with the B/M stripe on its nose.
Has Joel verified the dog yet? LOL

[Edited by YenkoYS100 (10-28-2001 at 10:30 PM).]