COPO Identification

[bkhpah]

The only tags I have ever seen on a COPO or a 396 are HQ even though the HW tag was used as well. I have never see the YP tag. Also you can get a COPO Camaro with a black tail panel. I have seen a few examples of that. If the only evidence that a car is a 9737 is a HQ spring tag and it is a big block, you have really proved nothing other than it has the correct front coils. Paper tags rarely survive. Can you explain why you think a spring tag could ID a COPO Camaro when all else fails?
BKH

[JoeC]

The way I understand it; the std. trim group base car came with 22 items (too long to list) the style trim group (RPO Z21) includes rear fender louvers, fender striping, front and rear wheel opening moldings, black body sill (except with colors 51, 57, 61, and 67), rear panel emblem, bright headlight and tail lamp accents, and bright roof drip moldings (except convertible). If you order the RS (RPO Z22) package it has its own exceptions but of no concern for Yenkos. The SS396 had its own trim group including special hood, special emblems, rear fender louvers (same as Z21), black body sill (except with colors 51, 57, 61, and 67), and black rear panel. Getting back to the X-codes, X44 = base car (will have just the 22 std. trim items). X66 = base car with SS396 (std. 22 items + SS396 trim items) X22 = Style Trim Group with SS396 (std. 22 items + RPO Z21 + SS396 trim). The Yenkos are even more confusing because the COPO form was a loose cannon. When Yenko made his 9561/9737 COPO form he can add and delete RPO's so a X11 could have had the RPO Z21 deleted or a X44 could have had the RPO L78 trim added. We would need to see a copy of the COPO form to see how the cars were ordered. Were all 198 Yenko Camaros on the same COPO or were there "batches" done using different COPO forms? Was there a fixed COPO form for all 427/425 Camaros then Yenko added "his" 9737? I hope copies of the COPO forms turn up someday. I forgot: X11=Style Trim Group (std. 22 trim items + RPO Z21)

[Edited by JoeC (08-02-2000 at 12:27 PM).]

[Edited by JoeC (08-02-2000 at 12:33 PM).]

[Edited by JoeC (08-02-2000 at 01:13 PM).]

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

JoeC.
It appears that Yenko wrote a separate order form for each 'batch' of '70 Yenko Novas, these batches are separated by option groups and time spans. Yenko would order a batch of 4 speeds, then 4 speeds with power steering, then autos, then autos with power steering, creating 4 order forms for the first 125 cars. Yenko later ordered 50 more, but I don't know how he ordered them.

Yenko's order form only specified the COPO numbers, (9010/9737), and did not get into their specifics. Maybe the same for the '69's?

Marlin

[JoeC]

Marlin, Which COPO form was used for the Deuce? Do you have a copy you can email?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

JoeC:
Yenko ordered the COPO Novas using the normal Chev. Nova Order form. At the top is 'CPM420', that might be the form number.

Yenko spec'd the L65 Engine; 350/265HP, and the M20 trans, JL2 power discs among other normal options. Then, on the right side of the form in the area entitled 'Additional Options or Special Instructions' is written;

'COPO 9737CA'
'COPO 9020' (this was then crossed out)
'COPO 9010'
'ZB1 (M.S.O.)'

Another interesting point on the order form is that the 'color' blocks have a 'V' written in them. Is this for 'Various' since there is no breakdown on this form for colors? Was the color breakdown supplied on an attached form?

I will try to get it scanned in, and send it to you.
Marlin

[Kurt S]

Joe C did a pretty good job with the X codes. I'll explain a different way.
Brian said that X66 is a style trim option and then describes it. The description is correct (black body sill and tailpan, 1/4 gilles), but it for a BB with the absense of a style trim option.
A X22 body is a BB with Z21 style trim on it and adds driprail and wheelwell moldings.

I thought X22 included both bright taillight and headlight trim. I need to check on that.

See http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes for all the X code details.

The COPO's were very defined (remember other dealers used the same #). Yenko could not modify them each time he ordered the cars. The difference could be how the plant interpreted the order.

No known COPO's came out of the LA plant.

Kurt

[CamarosRus]

The old U.S. Camaro Club and there March/April 1994 magazine "Camaro Enthusiast" did article on the COPO subject.
Most of the info seems like its from Ed Cuneen. Article entitled 'Identifying The 1969 COPO L-72". Dont know how many members here have this article or would agree with most of it. Contact the NEW W.C.A. about new old issues. I might be able to Xerox the 6 page article and mail for a nominal cost. I do not own a COPO however my interest is high and I consider myself a friend of this site. regards Chuck Sharin/Seattle