Huebner Chevrolet #69 ZL1 Before and After

[MN 70L78]

Great info/history on the car!
I'm amazed how you guys find these old pictures and newspaper articles.

[396 SS/RS]

Originally Posted by MN 70L78

Great info/history on the car!
I'm amazed how you guys find these old pictures and newspaper articles.

Agree 100%. IMO, as long as the main body structure is original it's still a ZL1.

[JoeC]

this is said to be ZL-1 #69 racing with a 396 in it

[DW31S]

Originally Posted by SuperNovaSS

I see two. One looking at the window sticker and one under the hood.

Jason

You are correct sir…I missed the guy looking at the mill…duh! LOL

[iluv69s]

Originally Posted by PeteLeathersac

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I know this is an old post, but apparently based on this ad, the number of Zl-1’s was well known, even in 1969? This car is the last car and a May car.. Wonder when ad was made and how they knew.

I seem to recall that the number was always believed to be 50 and then Bill P got ahold of or found a second list from Vince P with another 19 VINs. ??? Is my memory incorrect?

[iluv69s]

So I decided to do some research on my own. This is Hooper’s 69 reference book.

So according to the book, in 1981 Vince Piggins and no one else remembered or knew that 69 zL-1’s were actually built.
But based on the ad, Huebner Chevrolet and everyone that read it knew the correct number in 1969? Wonder when the sales ad was made.

Something weird about this story ?

[JoeC]

It was big news in the drag racing community when Chevy built the ZL-1 Camaros for drag racing.

50 cars were required for Super Stock racing so some thought only 50 were built.

The MOPAR racers said that 50 were not built and they protested it.

Vinnce Piggins and others had to collect info to prove the 50 car minimum was met.


I have seen other numbers in the old ads and articles

A lot of what Vinnce Piggins did was done behind the scenes

this guy selling #12 thought it was 52

52 was also used in a 1969 Speed and Supercar article

[William]

Don’t know about weird, but something about that was unknown for many years.

Three years ago I had the privilege of speaking with Jerry Huffman. The family dealership, Huffmans' Chevrolet, was known as a performance dealership despite being located in Farmington IL, population just over 2,000. The location was near a mine that employed many young guys, making good money. They were well-known at Chevrolet Central Office and were one of the few dealerships allocated a Z-16 Chevelle. Jerry stated that their contact at Central Office, Barney Krass, contacted them Spring of 1969. Chevrolet had decided to end the COPO at 69 units and were soliciting dealerships to place additional orders. The dealership placed orders for two cars, Silver [#66] and Orange [#67] both 4-speeds. Sixteen other dealers also placed ZL-1 Camaro orders at that time.

It wasn’t fate that 69 1969 ZL-1 Camaros were built. Huebner Chevrolet also heard the plan.

I always wondered how that was allowed to happen. Huffmans’ Chevrolet was located 60 miles E of Gibb Chevrolet in La Harpe, IL. At the time of Huffman’s orders, there were 37 unsold ZL-1 Camaros in stock at Gibb Chevrolet. I asked Jerry about that. He said they were acquainted with Gibb and aware of his ZL-1 order but assumed the cars had been sold.

#66 & #67 were delivered late in May. #67 sold first, and quickly became a PIA with multiple engine failures requiring warranty repair and eventually a new engine. Sometime later it was traded in at a different dealership, ZL-1 engine missing. Huffman’s’ re-acquired it, installed the engine from #66 and sold it. It was subsequently destroyed in an accident.

#66 received a small-block and was sold. Survives today, in mostly original condition. Incredibly, the original blocks for both cars still exist.

Might sound like a yarn, but there is reason to believe it. There is a 31-day gap in ZL-1 Camaro production. The last Gibb car, #52, was final assembled on or about March 27, 1969. #53 was final assembled on or about April 26, 1969. The body numbers for those cars are much higher of course, but in another odd wrinkle, #51 was built prior to the last Gibb order despite being ordered much later [as was #54]. It was ordered by Brooks Chevrolet for Lamar Walden, possibly one of the few ‘insiders’ at Chevy.

BTW #3 was the first ZL-1 Camaro ordered, body #211785. Legend has it that Berger Chevrolet ordered 2 COPO 9561 Camaros, later changed one order to COPO 9560. Body #211786 is an L72 COPO.

[fsc66]

July 18, 1969

[fsc66]

Oct 11, 1969