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Hey, again, Steve! Congrats on success! (Yay!)
[Note: This is being posted subsequent to talking with Steve about the above success, however, prior to his most recent (today’s) post, in response to #896 from yesterday, I spent considerable time yesterday evening (post-post), and, this morning, poring over the Parts Catalogs in an effort to provide an assist! …And, as it turns out (as they so often say at Apple), moments prior to my being ready to post this, I refreshed the page, and, voila! Steve had arrived at the solution, which is great! …However… “Doh” for me! Murphy’s Law reigns supreme! At any rate, following a conversation with Steve, as I mentioned to him, I’m posting this anyway, ‘cause, perhaps, it may prove helpful to fellow auto fans in general, and, MoPar fans in particular, about the wonders & pitfalls of Parts Catalogs, and, Service Manuals.] So I looked at your Post #865 on p. 87, which includes your pic of the lock assembly items -and- the illustration from the Chassis Service Manual. I’m, also, re-posting my Parts Catalog photo illustration pages with the addition of circling the areas in question/discussion & related. Even though it states “MANUAL 3 SPEED TRANSMISSION,” I believe that there is a lack of a 4-speed illustration because the parts are, for all intents & purposes, the same (or, at last, close enough that they wanted to conserve paper, not unlike cleaning out spray guns inside cars). I rechecked my earlier printing catalog, and, although it is, by-&-large, from December of 1970, in actuality, I have pages (including Standard (non-power) Steering) from as early as May 1970, so it provides a wealth of info (including parts (and, illustrations thereof) which made it to the catalog, but were cancelled in production, and, therefore, deleted from subsequent printings of the catalog). ROD 19-48-1 (upper left-hand corner of top illustration) is “ROD, Gearshift Lock Col., w/3, 4 Speed Man. Trans. Floor Shift, 70 B, J (Barracuda, Challenger)” in the Parts Catalog (pn 2996 413) CLIP 19-48-23 (same illustration) (used on both ends of the 2996 413 Rod) seems to be “CLIP, Gearshift Lock Trans. Rod w/4 Speed man. Trans. Floor Shift” (pn 1635 232). Quantity shows “1,” however, it is, also, listed as “AR” (As Required) in the same section. Worth some research. By description, this is the closest, among the possibilities, however, I ain’t guaranteein’ it’s correct. “WASHER” (The 2 shown at the top attachment point do not show any PTC (Part Type Code), i.e. 19-48-23 above. That USUALLY indicates that it is just considered Standard Parts (Section 18 in the Parts Catalog); items where you just have to replace what was there with something comparable, or similar, (or, in their absence, ascertain what you need). …And, why does one of those “washers” suspiciously resemble a grommet? Hmmm…) Steve stated: “I looked in my old parts book under item 36, section 19-46-13 grommet and came up with 1553304 grommet and 1553305 bushing? As indicated, there is not really any listings other than "column shifted manual 3 speed" indicated.” As per our subsequent phone conversation today, playing “Devil’s Advocate,” I asked him why he thought that the pn 1553 304 grommet, and, the 19-46-14 pn 1553 305 bushing were applicable (#s 35 (invisible) & 36 in the steering column illustration), even though the grommet is showing for “Strg. Column Gearshift Tube Lever” -or- with “Auto Trans. Floor Shift,” and, the bushing is showing for “Auto. Trans. Column Shift.” His reply: “Because it is there!” (Kidding!) In actuality, looking at the parts illustrated (both in the catalog, and, in Steve’s detailed photos), despite lack of info, and/or, conflicting info, in the Parts Catalogs & Service Manual, (and, of course, the bonus being that Steve has the parts in hand), those part numbers appear to be highly probable choices. The moral of the story is that, though I greatly appreciate them for what they offer, Parts Catalogs are incomplete (as are Service Manuals); Illustrations (especially pre-production ones) can vary from ACTUAL production items (i.e. Steve said that there is no swivel/adjuster in the upper half of that 19-48-1 lock rod), and, “exploded view” perspectives can, at times, lead one to not fully understand the relation of one part to another in “as assembled” form. Add to that, that Service Parts can vary from Assembly Line items, designs change, vendors change, and, on, and, on, until, sometimes, it’s just a conundrum! I/we thought that this might prove helpful. I learn something(s) new every day. If this has helped someone, great! …And, if anyone can shed additional light on the subject(s) that would be much appreciated, too! |
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Always the voice of reason as well as brevity, Bob. ;-) I knew you'd have the answer(s)
That added connundrum of the several different part numbers in the diagram that show a "clip," refer to it as 1635232 in the parts catalog. And as I thought, it's just a regular Hurst shifter-style "pretzel" spring clip which also superceded to 1137669 (also a Hurst shifter-style spring clip). But, hey, I did get the contraption installed and actually working as designed! Last edited by njsteve; 12-27-2020 at 05:07 PM. |
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And I got the seatbelt properly routed through the seatback side cover.
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big gear head (12-29-2020), RPOLS3 (12-28-2020) |
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