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The very first L72 COPO Camaro 427 engines were assembled January 3, 1969. That's a common date, along with January 4th. Those engine dates are found in the earliest COPOs, built starting January 15, 1969 at the Norwood, Ohio plant.
The vehicle in question has an engine stamped T1120MN. That's 44 days prior to the earliest known L72 engines. It is also the only one known with that date. The car was built December 5, 1968, 41 days prior to the first COPO Camaros out of Norwood. The ducted hood that was standard equipment on all COPO Camaros did not exist in production at that time. You be the judge. Here's another thread. http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=14502.0
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thanks for your response. So understand I know 69 camaros decently, but not anything about the copo's, lol. So excuse my questions. So I hear and understand the date codes and build dates, but is this up for interpretation, or is it absolutely positively not real? I mean one post from someone said, I dont think we should put it in the registry. So sounds like its not considered a real copo car? i wonder how john cena bought it if it wasnt a real deal car for 175 grand? I saw something saying in 2017 from mecum it sold for 62,500. I mean how can this be? Also is the pic posted of the block and date code/VIN considered restamps? Looks to me like you can see the broching? any way someone might give me a call and discuss this more with me? it would mean the world obviously, cause I dont wanna buy a car thats not 100% legit. I thought it all checked out, but Im no expert on copos, so I needs some schoolin!! lol Thanks man
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I am no Camaro man having been into Mopars all my life. That said if I were looking to buy a high value Camaro I would trust the voices on this board. If the validity of it is called in to question on this board I would most definitely be walking away from it.
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I wrote the book on the Norwood plant and interviewed the guys who were involved with the COPO programs at the beginning of production. This particular car is better described as a tribute or a recreation. I hope this helps you in understanding the car. |
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William is one of the most knowledgeable people I've ever met when it comes to 69 Camaros. I would heed his advice.
It's pretty well known that the ZL2 hoods weren't even in production until very late December and that's a mandatory option on the COPO cars. The #1 ZL1 was the first to get it and that car wasn't finished until Dec 30th or so? (Correct me William, I know that's close) Just the hood dilemma would shy me away from this car despite how good the engine stamps may look. |
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And they don't look very good.
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