GM to quit NASCAR

[70 copo]

It is a complex back story:

In recent years the owners of NASCAR began to take positions in direct opposition to the belief structures of the people who supported the series all in an attempt to please the media and the socials.

The autopsy of NASCAR could read that the race was so safe since the loss of Dale that it was literally-boring to watch.

Ticket prices 25% higher then they were a decade ago.

Climate change people attacking the series for polluting the environment.

NASCAR beginning to support gun control.

Perhaps the epitaph was the media attack after staged questions were set to encourage NASCAR to protest the stars and stripes and national anthem a couple of years ago. This was a no win for NASCAR. If you are pro flag then you are polarized. If you decline the narrative then you loose again.

Media: Is NASCAR doing enough to battle: ?

Racism,

Global Warming,

Guns,

Display of the Confederate flag at the tracks -- and the list goes on and on...

If you are a potential new fan and you are likely to be worried about what people think of you than you are far less likely to participate in attending races or even watch.

Older fans took note and by changing the channel and finding other things to do rather than attend races.

The slow and painful death of NASCAR.

GM is bugging out simply because there are no detectable vehicle sale uptick or positive publicity as a result of participation in the series.

[Late BrakeU2]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

It is a complex back story:

In recent years the owners of NASCAR began to take positions in direct opposition to the belief structures of the people who supported the series all in an attempt to please the media and the socials.

The autopsy of NASCAR could read that the race was so safe since the loss of Dale that it was literally-boring to watch.

Ticket prices 25% higher then they were a decade ago.

Climate change people attacking the series for polluting the environment.

NASCAR beginning to support gun control.

Perhaps the epitaph was the media attack after staged questions were set to encourage NASCAR to protest the stars and stripes and national anthem a couple of years ago. This was a no win for NASCAR. If you are pro flag then you are polarized. If you decline the narrative then you loose again.

Media: Is NASCAR doing enough to battle: ?

Racism,

Global Warming,

Guns,

Display of the Confederate flag at the tracks -- and the list goes on and on...

If you are a potential new fan and you are likely to be worried about what people think of you than you are far less likely to participate in attending races or even watch.

Older fans took note and by changing the channel and finding other things to do rather than attend races.

The slow and painful death of NASCAR.

GM is bugging out simply because there are no detectable vehicle sale uptick or positive publicity as a result of participation in the series.

I think the single biggest reason for the slow decline is millenials( or gen YZ whathaveyas) are just not in to cars, period. And before someone chimes in with " I know this 30 yr old blah blah" it's a #s game, and not one Nascar is winning,or can seemingly fix no matter how many attempts to re invent themselves they try. It's over.

[danachevroletfor1967]

I first started losing interest in NASCAR when they went from the big block to the small block engines, I think with a CID limit of 358 or 359. I can't remember when this actually occurred. When Richard Petty retired after the 1992 or 1993 season I lost more interest. When they started making the cars look like cookie cutter ones with only decals differentiating them I completely lost interest. It basically turned into an IROC series. I would feel for all those who make a living in NASCAR, but wouldn't miss it at all if it went under.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Agree with all points stated, especially the indistinguishable cars - you need to look for the model on the front to determine what it is!!

Plus, there is no R&D Technology feedback for the mfg's with outdated pushrods, carbs, etc....think F1 and to a lesser degree Indy Car. IMHO, I like the old school V8 config's, but GM isn't learning anything new from the NASCAR engine builders that they can implement into current production models.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

Originally Posted by YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY

Agree with all points stated, especially the indistinguishable cars - you need to look for the model on the front to determine what it is!!

Plus, there is no R&D Technology feedback for the mfg's with outdated pushrods, carbs, etc....think F1 and to a lesser degree Indy Car. IMHO, I like the old school V8 config's, but GM isn't learning anything new from the NASCAR engine builders that they can implement into current production models.

FYI Marlin....they run fuel injection now in Nascar

[x33rs]

Yeah they went fuel injection a few years ago. Machine shop I use in Tucson run by Jeff Koerner, he used to build all the carbs for several Nascar teams right up until they switched. Not only is he one of the best carb guys in the country, he builds some fantastic engines, and his machine work is superb. I use him exclusively. Rob McCabe used to build the headers for a few of the teams. When he retired he started a shop right up the street from me and now does beautiful custom stuff for all types of vehicles. So some good is coming out of Nascar, at least for some of us hot rod guys

Besides, who doesn't like a screaming small block. Here's one Jeff built for the South West Tour Nascar series. Only 9:1 compression and 353ci. https://youtu.be/Sh8RjkwuiTs If you don't like listening to this, check your pulse.

I still watch Nascar most weekends. Don't really care what people think of it. I enjoy it more in person, the roar of all the engines going by shaking the grandstands and the smell of high octane fuel. I've kind of enjoyed it more as the dragstrips have been drying up slowing my participation, plus the lack of anything related to the street car or muscle car crowd.

[earntaz]

Besides, who doesn't like a screaming small block. Here's one Jeff built for the South West Tour Nascar series. Only 9:1 compression and 353ci. https://youtu.be/Sh8RjkwuiTs If you don't like listening to this, check your pulse.

Now that's a lil' old whine maker ... awesome sound!!

[Dave Rifkin]

Originally Posted by danachevroletfor1967

I first started losing interest in NASCAR when they went from the big block to the small block engines, I think with a CID limit of 358 or 359. I can't remember when this actually occurred. When Richard Petty retired after the 1992 or 1993 season I lost more interest. When they started making the cars look like cookie cutter ones with only decals differentiating them I completely lost interest. It basically turned into an IROC series. I would feel for all those who make a living in NASCAR, but wouldn't miss it at all if it went under.

I agree with some of your opinions; for me I am not so put off by the displacement thing but, I agree 110% about the cars being cookie cutter with decals used to make them resemble the production cars.
Can't the teams built all of the safety into a car that uses production body panels? or at least some of the panels.

I also think the Chase thing isn't adding anything to the sport.

I agree that the races are more like a IROC series and less of a competitive sport.