GM to quit NASCAR

[1969L89]

Way too many rules + boring cars + boring drivers + mickey mouse points chase + many of the greats have moved on + same driver winning multiple championships = sport is dead.

[tjs44]

The racing has NEVER been better!The"good old days" might have 4 cars on the lead lap and the championship might have been decided with 3 races left in the season.The rules are there to try to keep the costs under some kind of control.If you remember a few gen cars ago they were going around the track a cockeyed.JMHO,Tom

[x33rs]

Originally Posted by tjs44

The racing has NEVER been better!The"good old days" might have 4 cars on the lead lap and the championship might have been decided with 3 races left in the season.The rules are there to try to keep the costs under some kind of control.If you remember a few gen cars ago they were going around the track a cockeyed.JMHO,Tom

Excellent points.

[m22mike]

IROC.....IROC....IROC...........boring

[x33rs]

I actually enjoyed the IROC series. Made me want to go out and buy a new 88 IROC-Z at the time.

[tjs44]

The road races and short track are boring?Do you actually ever watch a race?Tom

[x33rs]

I enjoy the road racing Tom. Reminds me of the old SCCA stuff. Unruly heavy V8 RWD cars sliding around, looks like fun to me.

[Late BrakeU2]

Originally Posted by tjs44

The road races and short track are boring?Do you actually ever watch a race?Tom

I am the polar opposite, watch only the road course and short track. I fall asleep watching the mile and a half tracks, and the superspeedways while exciting are always wreckers n checkers.

[Tommy]

I haven't watched a full race in several years. If the stands were full it would help. I have a hard time watching a televised race that has empty stands. It just looks weird. Like watching a football game without fans. The crowd used to really get into the races, especially when Dale Sr was racing. It won't bother me at all if it dries up or gets sold and becomes something different. I just lost interest over the years. I don't know any of the drivers anymore.

Tommy

[tjs44]

Thats the problem Tommy!The cars are on the track!Forget the stands and watch the cars.I dont know how many realize how evil the cup cars are.Even when they take them to 550HP they run 200.If you ever get a chance to drive the school cars it will open your eyes.I have about 30 plus laps at Vegas.I dragged raced for 10 year,held many AHRA records and I just dont have the balls to keep my foot on the floor going into the corners.I had dinner with Dale Sn 2 weeks before he died.Because of my job I got to meet and spend time with many of the drivers and pretty much spent my days at the track in the pits.Watch the road races and watch them carry the front wheels around the corners.The car for 21 is getting bigger wider tires and rims,IRS suspension and more modern improvements.I got to spend a day at TRD and watch them run a race on a engine dyno,happened to be a road course and it was assume listing to the loading and unloading of the engines and the gear changes.We are REALLY in the best days of "stock car"racing.People talk about running what we drive,the genie is out of the bottle and not going back.We dont kill drivers anymore thank God but they know when they go upside down and barrel roll at 200 it might be there last race.Spend some time this year and watch a few races,watch the end of the stages when they all lose their minds and would move their grand mother for a couple Xtra positions.Enough of me.Tom