1969 ZL1 Vette?

[rsinor]

Originally Posted by Tracker1

Not sure why the tank sticker of the Orange ZL1 has the actual RPO ZL1 code listed. My understanding is it should be L88, as Judski's yellow car is - but I have to go find my pics of the Judski tank sticker to make sure

Please take this in the spirit it was written, personally I have no dog in the fight, don't care if there were seven or two ZL1's. Do care that facts are facts and can't or shouldn't be changed.

Attached here are two dealer invoices same car? with the same signatures?, dates, and invoice numbers but different dollar values and terminology.

Draw your own conclusion.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The first one has font issues....

[1971ls6]

The motor stamp numbers are different, one in August and the other October? One has the 427 motor listed as $1,000 plus the $3,000 alluminum ZL1 the other just the $3k.

[Tracker1]

So I looked at Judski's yellow car's tank sticker (thanks rsinor) and it is way different than the Maher car. As the yellow car is the gold standard and is a known ZL1 since the late 1970s
(Vette Vues Magazine in March 1980), the tank sticker has L88 as the listed RPO FIRST, then down near the bottom is ZL1 ALUMINUM CYLINDER BLOCK. Which is what I found weird about the orange car's sticker: no mention of L88. It should be there as the ZL1 block is simply a substitution INTO the L88 package on a Corvette, replacing the L88s iron block.

My 2 cents, and THIS IS JUST LITTLE OLD ME EXPRESSING AN OPINION, not disparaging the car or John Maher (unless he paid for fake docs then that's fraud), but even if I had the money to have Kevin McKay restore a Corvette for me - and that must be astronomical $$ - it would NOT be the Maher car. There's just owner oral history there, and that's not enough. I don't trust the docs on the Orange car, now, as far as I could throw them.

Vette Vues March 1980 picture of tank sticker for yellow ZL1 Coupe, compare to Maher car tank sticker I posted earlier.

[muscle_collector]

got a question for the guys who know, why do I see some of the "L88" (put in quotation marks as probably more are fakes than real ones) have the emblem at the rear of the hood scoop instead of the front of it? which is correct? did all the originals say 427 or did any come with L88 call out?

[SBR]

Originally Posted by muscle_collector

got a question for the guys who know, why do I see some of the "L88" (put in quotation marks as probably more are fakes than real ones) have the emblem at the rear of the hood scoop instead of the front of it? which is correct? did all the originals say 427 or did any come with L88 call out?

The L88 emblem on the hood is an add on. Real L88 hoods had only the 427 numbers on them.

[olredalert]

----Only L88 emblems from GM are decal style. As far as I know, and I bought a 1969 3000 mile original L88 Monaco orange convert from the original owner, there were no actual L88 callouts anywhere but on the console. New owners to the L88 family really want to announce their arrival. I guess the hood alone isn't enough for those guys. The 427 emblem is correct as SBR has stated.

----As usual with all of us, I really wish I wouldn't have sold it!!!......Bill S

[muscle_collector]

and it should be at the front correct??

[olredalert]

----Yup! If its a factory hood the holes should be there......Bill S

[rynoshark]

The orange and yellow 1969 RPO ZL1s are both at Bloomington this week, is this the first time both have appeared at the same event? Timely show, especially as recently uncovered ZL1 development documents in the GM Heritage Center seem to be starting to clear up some of the mysteries and myths of the 1969 ZL1s. One GM document reportedly temporarily authorizes closed chamber heads specifically for type L88/ZL1 engines with M40 automatics right before the orange car was built, so sounds like that debate can be put to rest. Has anyone had a chance to see the documents in person at Bloomington?