Automotive News says the Dodge Demon should be banned

[Kurt S]

I see where they are coming from.
Chevrolet made COPO not street legal. "COPO is a true racing machine, specifically offered for competitive NHRA use only. It cannot be registered, titled, licensed, or driven on public roads." With roll cage.
Dodge probably should have done the same. It's a racecar that shouldn't be run on the street, IMO.

[SuperNovaSS]

If they did that than they would sell very few and they would lose money.


Jason

[Dave Rifkin]

For all of you guys referring to people a "snowflakes"; I'm sure we've all seen wealthy dipshits at cruises who try and show off and lose control of the car. Many times these same idiots wind up running into a crowd of innocent bystanders.

Do I want the government to rule out all hi performance cars; hell no but do I think the manufacturers should market their "street" cars as race cars, no. The friggin' thing doesn't even have a passenger seat, comes with slicks and other features typically reserved for a full time race car.
As to the comparison to the Lambos and other exotics; do you see any of those manufacturers removing seats, providing race tires and touting the car as the baddest thing on the street?
Sure there are ubber wealthy folks who own those cars too and some of those people can't drive for shit but, those cars are portrayed as street racers.

If these opinions make me a snowflake so be it.

[Turbo70Camaro]

Originally Posted by Dave Rifkin

For all of you guys referring to people a "snowflakes"; I'm sure we've all seen wealthy dipshits at cruises who try and show off and lose control of the car. Many times these same idiots wind up running into a crowd of innocent bystanders.



If these opinions make me a snowflake so be it.

Dave all you have to do is go on youtube and search Mustang car show crashes, were talking about 300-500 hp cars so a dipshit is a dipshit no matter what car it is...................

Snowflake reference was not meant for any member here bud it was for the article writer.............

[flyingn]

Originally Posted by Dave Rifkin

For all of you guys referring to people a "snowflakes"; I'm sure we've all seen wealthy dipshits at cruises who try and show off and lose control of the car. Many times these same idiots wind up running into a crowd of innocent bystanders.

Do I want the government to rule out all hi performance cars; hell no but do I think the manufacturers should market their "street" cars as race cars, no. The friggin' thing doesn't even have a passenger seat, comes with slicks and other features typically reserved for a full time race car.
As to the comparison to the Lambos and other exotics; do you see any of those manufacturers removing seats, providing race tires and touting the car as the baddest thing on the street?
Sure there are ubber wealthy folks who own those cars too and some of those people can't drive for shit but, those cars are portrayed as street racers.

If these opinions make me a snowflake so be it.

The snowflakes I refer to are the people in the media who are complaining about the car. I stand by what I say too. IF the Demon was made by a Euro manufacture or Japanese manufacture, it would not be in the position that these snowflake media folks are putting it in. Dumb people make dumb mistakes all the time. There will be 1000 times as many deaths in every day cars by people texting etc then all the deaths in all the super high performance put together, bu do you see these snowflakes banning those cars and drivers and phones?

[cook_dw]

Dave, I think they are talking about the snowflakes as being the people that want the cars banned not the inexperienced drivers. The only thing I will say is that Dodge should have required a driving class for the Hellcat and Demon before purchasing.. It would at least allow the potential new owners a better understanding of what they are getting into. This falls into a similar category to handguns. The car didn't harm the person. The driver did. Educate the user and the accidents will reduce.

Here is what the owners are required to sign before purchase of a Demon.

Here is the link to an article about it.

http://jalopnik.com/heres-what-you-h...lle-1796304916

[JRC99]

These sound like the most boring people on Earth. I have a few choice words for them, but I'd rather keep things family friendly.

Also, this is from back in April. Sadly, not April 1st.

[ZiggyL78]

Wait a minute.Does any one really believe that NHRA has really banned the Demon?Half the clowns that are going to buy one these monsters will not have the skill to get one in the 9s.The well experienced test driver that got a 9.65 out of one of these cars made 500 passes on a well prepped track under almost perfect conditions to go that fast.Look at all the disappointed Hellcat drivers who went to the track and expected to run 10s.

Second of all when was the last time you heard of NHRA advertising on some rule they have and what cars they will not allow to compete?This is clearly a publicity stunt by Chrysler to advertise how fast this car is and how special it is to be the first production car to be banned by NHRA.Chrysler probably took a number of NHRA VIPs to dinner and maybe more then that to get NHRA to make such a statement.

As far as this car being released to the public.I'm the one of the biggest HP junkies you will ever meet.I would love to own one but the car is too fast and dangerous to let your average Joe drive one.I read an article were someone asked why the DRs on the front and back of the car.I thought they did it to comply with some safety rule about matching tires on a new car.This article said the reason was that if someone was going to the track a lot and wore out the rear DRs then all they had to do was switch the tires from front to back!Are you kidding!So some kid wears down the rears puts them on the front and wears those down and drives home with 4 worn out DRs and it starts to rain.Gee.I wonder what will happen!

Just my 2 cents.

[67BelAir427]

Ken, just curious what source you read that said it took 500 passes on a prepped track?
I have looked and all I can find is that the rear end took 500 launches before letting go and the test mule engine was good for at least 1100 ?

You surely can't be the same Ken that I know who took his brand new Buick GN to the track and ran faster than the magazine test cars ??? LOL

Please tell me you haven't turned into "your average Joe "

Originally Posted by ZiggyL78

Wait a minute.Does any one really believe that NHRA has really banned the Demon?Half the clowns that are going to buy one these monsters will not have the skill to get one in the 9s.The well experienced test driver that got a 9.65 out of one of these cars made 500 passes on a well prepped track under almost perfect conditions to go that fast.Look at all the disappointed Hellcat drivers who went to the track and expected to run 10s.

Second of all when was the last time you heard of NHRA advertising on some rule they have and what cars they will not allow to compete?This is clearly a publicity stunt by Chrysler to advertise how fast this car is and how special it is to be the first production car to be banned by NHRA.Chrysler probably took a number of NHRA VIPs to dinner and maybe more then that to get NHRA to make such a statement.

As far as this car being released to the public.I'm the one of the biggest HP junkies you will ever meet.I would love to own one but the car is too fast and dangerous to let your average Joe drive one.I read an article were someone asked why the DRs on the front and back of the car.I thought they did it to comply with some safety rule about matching tires on a new car.This article said the reason was that if someone was going to the track a lot and wore out the rear DRs then all they had to do was switch the tires from front to back!Are you kidding!So some kid wears down the rears puts them on the front and wears those down and drives home with 4 worn out DRs and it starts to rain.Gee.I wonder what will happen!

Just my 2 cents.

[ZiggyL78]

Originally Posted by 67BelAir427

Ken, just curious what source you read that said it took 500 passes on a prepped track?
I have looked and all I can find is that the rear end took 500 launches before letting go and the test mule engine was good for at least 1100 ?

You surely can't be the same Ken that I know who took his brand new Buick GN to the track and ran faster than the magazine test cars ??? LOL

Please tell me you haven't turned into "your average Joe "

Hi Marc.
I'm getting more "average" every day.I bought a Vmax last spring and sold it in early summer.This was the second one I had owned.The first one was back in 1988 after I bought the GN.I was young and crazy and only dropped it once in the 3 years I had it.I guess I'm more "average" now as the bike scared the hell out of me.

A month ago I sold my Silverado SS and I had my eye on a SRT 300.The deal was done and just before I went to buy the car I stopped and thought.Do I really need another performance car as I still have the 442.I walked away and a week ago I bought a Lincoln MKS.Twin turbo of course.I love it.I've already ordered a tune for the car.I'm not that "average" yet.

I can't remember the article on the test driver bought I did hear it a couple of times.This is a quote that I just found.The article was more specific.

As Kuniskis notes, "Those times were set by our development engineer who has probably 500 passes in the car. So the average consumer out there, if they're a weekend racer, they're going to get in a couple of runs a weekend, a couple of weekends a year. It's going to take them awhile to get comfortable enough with driving this car well enough to get into those time frames."