4-Door Barracuda

[marxjunk]

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[PlymouthX]

Preserving factual history for a manufacturer, be it Chrysler, Chevrolet, Ford, etc.. is part of our Hobby and for the future of our hobby!

It would have behooved the owner to obtain more factual proof of the existance of this "4 door cuda" prior to building this car and creating threads on multiple forums. Furthermore, as the "For B Bodies Thread" Beavis linked here. It displayed an owner who cannot accept any discussion "UNLESS" it is someone who agrees with him. It is apparent that anyone who questions the historical validity of this creation gets bullied into submission by this individual. The only thing the owner can come up with is some fly by night story from a reporter. No pictures, no documentation, no other sightings, etc.

In order to preserve history there has to be factual evidence in multiple forms, not just a single story. If not then it is just an urban legend.

I also do not understand why Chrysler would even consider this type of venture. A 4 door cuda with a trunk that has a "spacer saver" tire in it and even with that you cannot get ONE full-size suitcase in the trunk. The roof does not fit proportionally with the body and as others stated that was a pitfall of mixing two body styles.

Another question is where would have this car been built? Logistically, with all the different parameters from the 2 door line it would have been cost/profit prohibitive for this to occur.

[ECS]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PlymouthX</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also do not understand why Chrysler would even consider this type of venture. A 4 door cuda with a trunk that has a &quot;spacer saver&quot; tire in it and even with that you cannot get ONE full-size suitcase in the trunk. </div></div>

Hi Chargerjoe.........uh......I mean PlymouthX. Could you explain what the purpose was for Chrysler making or why they &quot;even considered&quot; the Concept Car linked below? It didn't even have a Trunk HALF the size of the 1970 Barracuda. They never had any intentions of building this Car so it appears that it was just another &quot;Concept venture&quot; where they wasted money......right? Regarding your logic and argument against a 4 Door Barracuda Concept, why would Chrysler waste money on this Concept if they never planned on building it?

http://www.highsnobiety.com/2012/07/...r-concept-car/

[ZLP955]

Not that it matters one iota, but I don't have an opinion either way on this particular car. However, with several new members seemingly joining to put their arguments across, I can't help wondering if the subject car is perhaps nearing completion and about to debut at a show or auction somewhere, and hence question the motivation to re-open the discussion on this forum.
Let people form their own opinions based on the available information (or lack thereof).

[PlymouthX]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLP955</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not that it matters one iota, but I don't have an opinion either way on this particular car. However, with several new members seemingly joining to put their arguments across, I can't help wondering if the subject car is perhaps nearing completion and about to debut at a show or auction somewhere, and hence question the motivation to re-open the discussion on this forum.
Let people form their own opinions based on the available information (or lack thereof). </div></div>
This is a forum and I joined to be part of this discussion and in the future others here. As part of a discussion as I thought this thread was, I put in my two cents.

As far as this project I could care less where/when it debuts, sells etc.

I put in my two cents because preserving factual history is very important and not to be tampered with. Just because people want to follow the status quo and not rock the boat per se is not my problem as a newbie. However, I am greatly sure people have opinions when it comes to politics, religion, marriage, etc. but do we shun them because they started a thread on that topic or do we act civilized and have a discussion in a proper format called a FORUM.

Do you think the Builder has acted civilized? Or as a Bully?

Heck, maybe this is the only place where Beavis, who started this thread cannot be bullied into submission. It is very apparent in the &quot;for b bodies&quot; thread thats how the members with differing opinions were treated.

[Xplantdad]

Can both of you please post the rest of your info in your profile?

Unlike other sites, we like to get to know folks by their names. This site is moderated really well-and unlike some of the other sites-this site frowns on arguments spilling over from other sites as well. If the posts were closed on other sites, they were most likely closed for a reason.

Thanks for updating your profile info, PlymouthX and Beavis. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[Beavis]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can both of you please post the rest of your info in your profile?

Unlike other sites, we like to get to know folks by their names. This site is moderated really well-and unlike some of the other sites-this site frowns on arguments spilling over from other sites as well. If the posts were closed on other sites, they were most likely closed for a reason.

Thanks for updating your profile info, PlymouthX and Beavis. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

No worries. I have no intent to violate the board rules

[ECS]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PlymouthX</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you think the Builder has acted civilized? Or as a Bully?</div></div>

What's considered &quot;civilized&quot;? The person who initiates attacks for no reason whatsoever or the person who stands up against those attacks? A &quot;bully&quot; is a person who seeks and instigates trouble with others.....not the other way around. If people don't like how I respond to their criticism, they should stay out of the conversation.

My name is Dave Walden and I am the one building this Car with Steve. He is not my &quot;Body-man&quot;. I have worked side by side with him almost everyday in putting this car together. I can assure you that I do much more than just throw money in Steve's direction to have it built.

For the record, there has never been a story fabricated or intended to mislead anyone. After entering and winning 3 separate Mopar OE National events, I simply decided to do something different. I saw an Artist's rendering of a blue/gray 4 Door Cuda and talked with Steve about building something like it. About 3 weeks later, Steve came across an article written by Roger Johnson that told about seeing a vehicle similar to what we talked about constructing. Regardless of Roger Johnson's &quot;story&quot;, we had already set out to build it. The &quot;story&quot; was just an added mystic in the overall scheme of things.

Was there ever a Concept 4 Door Barracuda sitting at Chrysler's Headquarters in 1969? I couldn't say yes or no with any definitive certainty. I do know that there were MANY Concept vehicles that were constructed and never made public or documented. I am not as arrogant as some people who base &quot;reality&quot; on their perception or limited knowledge about a topic. No one is forced to believe anything that they do not want to believe and no one is trying to re-write History about anything. All information has been made public and the entire build/project has been completely documented/disclosed for the entire World to see. Below is a link that has documented much of the build process.

One last point. I think that the person posting under &quot;beavis&quot; was also &quot;tufcat&quot; on other forums. He has been banned from just about every venue he has posted on, so it appears he came here to continue his obsessed tirade about this project.

http://www.forebodiesonly.com/forum/...oor-cuda.7469/

[PeteLeathersac]

Welcome aboard Jeff...you too Jon C?
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~ Pete

[Xplantdad]

Thanks Jeff! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]