69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?

[Charley Lillard]

Show me a good survivor with satin tail panel. I am basing my opinion on looking at survivors. I believe memories can get clouded.

[HawkX66]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe memories can get clouded. </div></div>I definitely won't debate that and have seen it plenty of times... I know you're pretty adamant that its gloss, but what do you think about the ad pic?

[m22mike]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Show me a good survivor with satin tail panel. I am basing my opinion on looking at survivors. I believe memories can get clouded. </div></div>

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2458.165

From the CRG post #165, 5K mile car. I think Lillard has been rubbing his panel to much [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m22mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Show me a good survivor with satin tail panel. I am basing my opinion on looking at survivors. I believe memories can get clouded. </div></div>

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2458.165

From the CRG post #165, 5K mile car. I think Lillard has been rubbing his panel to much [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]


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That almost looks like it is has a different pigment to it versus being satin or flat. It still has a gloss to it that is much glossier than what people are spraying as semi gloss.

[m22mike]

Several years ago, Mike Gale had his original paint Black/red stripe 69 Camaro RS Baldwin Motion at MCACN. I failed to get pictures of his rear panel. You could clearly see a tape line with the trunk open, and the paint looked differant. Maybe someone else got some shots of his car ?
Another thing to consider, besides what Phil pointed out about the variations in temperature at the time of this blackout, is the number of times a car was washed, even the continued cleaning with a wet towel over time may add to the gloss level.

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[Steve Shauger]

Mike there's another black car that also has the same contrasting black applied to the tail panel( Bob's car a member on this site). It is my belief that blacked out tail panels &amp; rockers were 70-80% gloss(a different formula from black exterior paint used). As many have pointed out, there are variables that may have contributed to the degree of gloss, such as temperature and polishing over the years. I've owned and inspected many car with blacked out tail panels and rockers and that is my conclusion.

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

Show me a good survivor with satin tail panel. I am basing my opinion on looking at survivors. I believe memories can get clouded.

OK, here's one, call it what you will, but certainly not gloss!

[Charley Lillard]

Lol...you idiot. You see your reflection but say “no gloss”.

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

Lol...you idiot. You see your reflection but say “no gloss”.

OK moron! if you think that is the same GLOSS black they applied to the full exterior of cars then were done! (BTW I left the T off and meant not gloss as in full gloss) My point was to show an original example and how poorly it reflects. In fact I believe I identified the picture file as 65% gloss. This example is pretty dull because it hasn't been polished, which overtime will increase the reflective properties.

. As for the other variable that cause variations in paint such as temperature and humidity those should affect all paint not just the black out areas. In my opinion and the examples I have seen I'm convinced the blackout was not intended to be full gloss PERIOD.