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Old 08-04-2015, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: watk69</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;but for any doubters&quot;..........Its only natural that youre going to get doubters when you are wanting 3 times what a car would be worth if it wasn't for the color. </div></div>


Reply of the thread right there!, especially if the original owner or Brad (the restorer) or whoever else has a stake in the car seems to want 200k or better for this machine. For such a special car there should have been a lot of fanfare, ......i.e. Polaroid and Kodak Instamatic with FlashCube pics somewhere. Bows ribbons, champagne, hot dogs etc......LOL. But at the very least a sale contract with THAT color listed on it beside special paint. We, as hobbyists, want to believe in this Omega, but at 200k anyone would be a fool to pay that without it being in STONE that it came that color from the factory

If it were mine, with this cloud of doubt around it, I would have taken the 160k it bid to and ran to the bank </div></div>



really???????? I had over 200 early Camaros in the 80's and 90's... I have very very few pics of any of them... that was not the digital age.....Did you expect a ticker tape parade back then when the car was delivered???? How about a visit from the Pope ?? If someone orders a special color Camaro in 2015 how much fanfare would there be???


I find it hard to believe the selling dealer would fabricate such a story and put it in writing. </div></div>


I was being facetious, but sheepishly admit I took hundreds of pics of my 78 Camaro with an anemic 305, because it was my first new car I bought and paid for on my own

Just saying if there was an order or sale contract from when the car was purchased that said what color the special paint was, everyone would shut up, its the 150k question
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Old 08-04-2015, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: watk69</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: watk69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=the427king]&quot;but for any doubters&quot;..........Its only natural that youre going to get doubters when you are wanting 3 times what a car would be worth if it wasn't for the color. </div></div>


Reply of the thread right there!, especially if the original owner or Brad (the restorer) or whoever else has a stake in the car seems to want 200k or better for this machine. For such a special car there should have been a lot of fanfare, ......i.e. Polaroid and Kodak Instamatic with FlashCube pics somewhere. Bows ribbons, champagne, hot dogs etc......LOL. But at the very least a sale contract with THAT color listed on it beside special paint. We, as hobbyists, want to believe in this Omega, but at 200k anyone would be a fool to pay that without it being in STONE that it came that color from the factory

If it were mine, with this cloud of doubt around it, I would have taken the 160k it bid to and ran to the bank [/qu



really???????? I had over 200 early Camaros in the 80's and 90's... I have very very few pics of any of them... that was not the digital age.....Did you expect a ticker tape parade back then when the car was delivered???? How about a visit from the Pope ?? If someone orders a special color Camaro in 2015 how much fanfare would there be???


I find it hard to believe the selling dealer would fabricate such a story and put it in writing. </div></div>


I was being facetious, but sheepishly admit I took hundreds of pics of my 78 Camaro with an anemic 305, because it was my first new car I bought and paid for on my own

Just saying if there was an order or sale contract from when the car was purchased that said what color the special paint was, everyone would shut up, its the 150k question </div></div>


I hear ya.... I still think there may be someone else out there that knew this car when new... BTW... I postedrecently aout a triple black stripe delete 69 L-78 w paperwork... that car did have the color in the paperwork I believe... hmmmmmm
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Old 08-03-2015, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;but for any doubters&quot;..........Its only natural that youre going to get doubters when you are wanting 3 times what a car would be worth if it wasn't for the color. </div></div>

Please correct me if I am wrong but I do not think Clem has any financial stake in the sale of the car.

He has not owned the car since the 1970's...
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:07 AM
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

I co-op'd out of St Louis, so it was all 3 lines (trucks, full size, &amp; Corvettes). My only experience actually painting was at Corvette though, where the panels were still sprayed manually &amp; then re-flowed (thank God!). Keith - I'm sure that you are stating facts, but half of the time standard colors didn't exactly match paint chips - there was some variance over time.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"></div></div>

I co-op'd out of St Louis, so it was all 3 lines (trucks, full size, &amp; Corvettes). My only experience actually painting was at Corvette though, where the panels were still sprayed manually &amp; then re-flowed (thank God!). Keith - I'm sure that you are stating facts, but half of the time standard colors didn't exactly match paint chips - there was some variance over time. </div></div>my 62 corvette was painted from the st louis factory anniversary gold and my 65 396 was a factory delivery on april 16 1965
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Why was this car inspected in the first place?. The original owner has confirmed the colour. The trim tag and dealer invoices are there. The stampings are legitimate. Yes,its an early car. Yes, I wasn't one of the detectives that inspected the car. That car is unique.I too have a -- paint car and my canadian gm docs list a 1001pa special color.The original owner confirmed the color to me as purple the original luovers from the fenders still have born with paint.I paid no attention to what some of the detectives had to say.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marshall</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why was this car inspected in the first place?. The original owner has confirmed the colour. The trim tag and dealer invoices are there. The stampings are legitimate. Yes,its an early car. Yes, I wasn't one of the detectives that inspected the car. That car is unique.I too have a -- paint car and my canadian gm docs list a 1001pa special color.The original owner confirmed the color to me as purple the original luovers from the fenders still have born with paint.I paid no attention to what some of the detectives had to say. </div></div>the restorer found me thru the internet after the inspection by the experts. I had put the VIN numbers of my 68 and 69 Z/28 on the Camaro website and posted I had the paper work. he put the VIN in goggle and my name came up
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

I think we have said about all that can be said. I'm not sure even if the color was spelled out on the paperwork that it would bring more money that a equally restored Z of a different color. I love the color and would love to own it but at nowhere near the asking price. First thing I would do would be remove some of the stupid &quot;happy marks&quot; on the car that every auction restorer seems to think will make more valuable.
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probably time to agree to disagree...
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