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[William]

The body number has nothing to do with production or production scheduling. I have maintained a reverse-engineered production schedule for many years. GM released the first and last VINs built for most months so that's what it's based it on. Van Nuys is somewhat easier to figure as there are some VN BBCs around and they were dated when printed. That date was when final assembly began; the body was already done. The few Norwood BBCs I have seen do not have dates so it's an educated guess. Firebird was mixed in with Camaro production at Norwood starting about the 3rd week of April and that makes it tougher. The overall rate stayed the same but the mix varied.

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The body number has nothing to do with production or production scheduling. </div></div>

Well...it does for the body shop. That's why it exists. I will agree the body shop numbers are only somewhat indirectly linked to final line (general assembly) production and scheduling.

I also agree about Firebird mixing in with Camaro starting in April of 1969, but didn't want to confuse the issue. I wasn't sure if they got their own body sequence number, which would have been directionally incorrect in terms of my calculations above (for example, in the Pontiac Michigan assembly plant there were different body sequences for big car, A body hardtop/coupe and A body convertible - all &quot;Pontiac&quot; nameplated vehicles).

K

[m22mike]

In my original post I made the statment <span style="color: #FF6666">&quot;The BDY# in 69&quot;</span> and we were talking about Camaros built at NOR. I have no clue what they did at other plants and years, it wasn't consistant.

Read below, taken from CGR, some of which Steve already mentioned.

1969 Fisher Body Numbers



1969 NOR Cowl Tag





Factory documentation indicates that the <span style="color: #FF6666">1969 system</span> used the central office order confirmation number as the body number and the analysis of vehicle data and documentation confirms this. This is the same number sent to the dealer as the order confirmation, used on body broadcast sheets in the IDENT number field, and that appears on the Window Sticker/Shipper. These numbers were unique for both Norwood (NOR) and Van Nuys (LOS or VN) in 1969 since they were assigned to the plants from a common pool of numbers (for example, 295460 was built at NOR (see the 69 tag picture) and 295461 may have been built at VN).
Orders were not built sequentially, but were scheduled by the assembly plant dependent on build component availability. <span style="color: #FF6666">Orders could be held for several weeks until the required components were available, e.g. 295460 may have been held for a several weeks due to a supply </span><span style="color: #FF6666">issue</span>, where as 295461 may have been added to the build schedule right away. This makes the 1969 body numbers vary relative to the VIN numbers.

Due to the extended 1969 model year, the body numbers were reset in August 1969 to 100000 at Norwood (Van Nuys has ceased Camaro production by that point).

Here is a good explanation of the 67 68 and 69 Camaro BDY#'s. Note that NOR and LOS only shared the same BDY# system in 1969

http://www.camaros.org/bodynumbering.shtml#69