LS6 Build Sheet

[SS4Real]

I have yet to see a memo or tech bulletin that states build sheets were to be removed from a car and thrown away in the trash at the factory as they went out the door. What I have seen is numerous examples of Atlanta cars (Lakewood plant) where they were clearly permanently affixed , i.e, glued to the inside of door panels which would seem to void the urban myth that they were to be removed and thrown away. In addition, build sheets are routinely found on top of gas tanks for Van Nuys built cars or under the tar paper for Arlington cars. I don't doubt that cars were cleaned up as they left the plant or detailed on the dealer lots upon delivery, but I don't get where this story that the build sheets were to be thrown away like some super secret document lives in urban folklore. To the lucky guys who find them in their cars, they seem to me to be just part of the build process. Too many exist that are consistently found in the same locations to counter the belief they were meant to be thrown away. JMO.

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have yet to see a memo or tech bulletin that states build sheets were to be removed from a car and thrown away in the trash at the factory as they went out the door. What I have seen is numerous examples of Atlanta cars (Lakewood plant) where they were clearly permanently affixed , i.e, glued to the inside of door panels which would seem to void the urban myth that they were to be removed and thrown away. In addition, build sheets are routinely found on top of gas tanks for Van Nuys built cars or under the tar paper for Arlington cars. I don't doubt that cars were cleaned up as they left the plant or detailed on the dealer lots upon delivery, but I don't get where this story that the build sheets were to be thrown away like some super secret document lives in urban folklore. To the lucky guys who find them in their cars, they seem to me to be just part of the build process. Too many exist that are consistently found in the same locations to counter the belief they were meant to be thrown away. JMO. </div></div>

We should check the PAD sheets for that direction; I suspect that is where it would appear.

I appreciate your opinion, and your zeal, but I am starting my 35th year at GM. I've worked in Vehicle Assembly, Product Engineering, Production Engineering, Product Development (in both Milford and Mesa), Program Management and New Product Launch. I've spent time in every GM Full Size truck plant in North America- eight years at Flint -and one small car plant [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] .

I would recommend you check out &quot;Echos of Norwood&quot; for additional commentary and photos of the de-papering process. The build sheet I posted from my GTO is the only one I've ever found in any of my collector cars. I followed several of them down the line as they were built and never thought (until now) to keep any of that paperwork.

It's not &quot;urban myth&quot; when you live it every day. Nor is it &quot;super secret&quot;. They were just pieces of paper back then.

I stood at the end of the final line one day last week for about a half hour and watched them throw away every piece of paper from every car, so I don't believe the process has changed much.

K

[Igosplut]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I am starting my 35th year at GM. I've worked in Vehicle Assembly, Product Engineering, Production Engineering, Product Development (in both Milford and Mesa), Program Management and New Product Launch. I've spent time in every GM Full Size truck plant in North America- eight years at Flint -and one small car plant </div></div>

To that end, do you have any idea why the willow run cars have the smaller broadcast sheets rather than the norm?

And, yes I agree. Years ago they were just so much waste paper (after the fact) I've found other factory papers also (mostly under the carpet)..

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Igosplut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To that end, do you have any idea why the willow run cars have the smaller broadcast sheets rather than the norm? </div></div>

No - just local plant preference.

You will find it varies within the same plant, too, as they tailor the document to meet their specific needs for that assembly area.

K

[TAR6569]

That's not a broadcast sheet. I don't know what those were called, it has the info from the cowl tag, with some options and were mostly used by the person putting the seat cover on. I have some Chevy 2 broadcast sheets from 68/69 (Body and Chassis Broadcast copies), they used those and the cards for each car.

When I took a tour of the Flint plant 2 years ago, I asked the tour guide what they do with all the paper. He said it gets thrown away. There's a spot on the line where most of that stuff gets removed, papers and inspection stickers, etc.

Warren

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's not a broadcast sheet. I don't know what those were called, it has the info from the cowl tag, with some options and were mostly used by the person putting the seat cover on. I have some Chevy 2 broadcast sheets from 68/69 (Body and Chassis Broadcast copies), they used those and the cards for each car.</div></div>

Not sure which document you are referring to, but the one I posted is in fact called a build sheet. Could also be called the build manifest.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I took a tour of the Flint plant 2 years ago, I asked the tour guide what they do with all the paper. He said it gets thrown away. There's a spot on the line where most of that stuff gets removed, papers and inspection stickers, etc.</div></div>

I used to give those tours at Flint Assembly (34 years ago).