Ebay POP

[kwhizz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It comes down to the buyer educating themselves on things like this before buying a vehicle, as I don't see the sale of this stuff ending anytime soon. I don't care how good a reproduction is, there are always ways to prove the authenticity of real items and disprove the fakes. </div></div>


I agree...................That's why &quot;Documented&quot; history is so important to really validate these rare cars that magically appear........

Ken

[737Driver]

Any and all of Bill Clemens P-O-Ps are easily and quickly detectable under scrutiny. He has been in the Corvette game a long time. If you know what to look for, it takes only a minute.

[Mr70]

I think there is some confusion in this topic..
Bill Clement was infamous for among other things,the B/J Buddy Holly '58 &amp; the Al.Head LS-6 Chevelle @ChevyCraft in Lubbock Tex.
Jim Clemens is the ebay seller being discussed here in Florida.
They are not related..

[737Driver]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think there is some confusion in this topic..
Bill Clement was infamous for among other things,the B/J Buddy Holly '58 &amp; the Al.Head LS-6 Chevelle @ChevyCraft in Lubbock Tex.
Jim Clemens is the ebay seller being discussed here in Florida.
They are not related.. </div></div>

Thanks for clearing it up, Rick. I meant Bill Clement in my previous post, but, it would apply to both. I have nothing against either and have purchased some great literature from Jim over the years. I think his P-O-P service is great and I bought one from him in the past because it is a deduction if you don't have one for NCRS judging. Thing is, they <span style="font-style: italic">ain't gonna</span> fool anyone that knows what to look for and that's a good thing.

Whew. My mistake.

Thanks for clearing it up. My apolgies.

Wayne

[Belair62]

Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change.

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change. </div></div>

Can't beat 'em, join 'em? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

[737Driver]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change. </div></div>

Bob,

NCRS is not OK with and does not encourage trying to fraud a vehicle with fake P-O-Ps, Build Sheets and re-stamps. You are commenting on something you don't know anything about. I don't recall the last time I saw you involved with NCRS.

You are one Hell of a great fellow, but, stick to subjects you are familiar with. If it were not for the NCRS, the rest of the hobby would be at a disadvantage on knowledge about the items you mentioned above. The NCRS has done more than any group to educate its members, and others, on realizing what is real and what is not.

I don't mean to start a pissing contest but, how involved with NCRS are you? Why do you pretend to know what NCRS does and does not stand for? Come on down to Charlotte, NC for the National Convention in July. I will pay for your yearly membership, entry fee to the National meet and you can stay in my room (yes, double beds [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]) and I will personally introduce you to some of the best folks you will ever want to meet. It will, I'm sure, clear up some of your unsubstantiated, unwarranted and uninformed misconceptions.

Take care and, call me if you have any other questions about NCRS. Oh yeah, I love Camaros, Novas, Chevelles AND big Chevies too. No Bullshit...come on down to Charlotte and let me introduce you to a whole new set of great people than can give you an education.

Come on, Bob, talk is cheap. This would make a great write-up in July on this website. The article could read, 'I went with Mark and here is what I saw, witnessed and so on...This is what I experienced first hand...' Most likely, you would write...'I had a hard time keeping up with Mark and his buddies...' [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif[/img]

Regards,

Mark
859-612-9121
Mdonnally

[Belair62]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change. </div></div>

Well it sounds like the NCRS does ding people for fake POP's so I will have to humbly and gladly retract this post which was based on the EBay fellow saying he has been serving the NCRS community.