68 COPO CAMARO EBAY?

[Kurt S]

Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

[MultiMopars]

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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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That is a contridictory statement. If the order for special paint was ordered through the Central Office Production Order process then it IS a COPO car. I may not be what people have come to expect a COPO car is but that is only because of what certain people in the hobby have come to expect of a certain label. There were lots of different reasons for and order to go through the central office rather than the normal dealer order process.

[old5.0]

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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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That is a contridictory statement. If the order for special paint was ordered through the Central Office Production Order process then it IS a COPO car. I may not be what people have come to expect a COPO car is but that is only because of what certain people in the hobby have come to expect of a certain label. There were lots of different reasons for and order to go through the central office rather than the normal dealer order process.

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Is there some difference in the process depending on what you were ordering? For example, was there no difference in paperwork between a special color and something more complicated like a 427 Camaro that might explain the difference in terminology? Or have we just made "COPO" synonymous with "something cool"?

[TimG]

I know that special paint does not show up as COPO in the box on Corvette paperwork. One '65 Corvette that was ordered as blue with red interior is always referred to as a COPO. The same with the few silver with red interior '67 Corvettes. They are always referred to as COPO cars.
The '73 Black Corvette that was owned locally and also by a member of this forum didn't have COPO anywhere. The only reference to paint color was "Black" written on the build sheet. The window sticker showed "Special Paint" with a cost only.

[MultiMopars]

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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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That is a contridictory statement. If the order for special paint was ordered through the Central Office Production Order process then it IS a COPO car. I may not be what people have come to expect a COPO car is but that is only because of what certain people in the hobby have come to expect of a certain label. There were lots of different reasons for and order to go through the central office rather than the normal dealer order process.

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Is there some difference in the process depending on what you were ordering? For example, was there no difference in paperwork between a special color and something more complicated like a 427 Camaro that might explain the difference in terminology? Or have we just made "COPO" synonymous with "something cool"?

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Yes, that is just it.

It was an order that the dealer submitted through that office rather than on the standard order form.

The office assigned non-standard (not RPO) numbers. Different numbers to identify what you were ordering. The ones that everybody is familiar with are the performance ones used by Yenko and other dealers to get what we recognize as "COPO Camaros" etc.

[Steve Shauger]

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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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That is a contridictory statement. If the order for special paint was ordered through the Central Office Production Order process then it IS a COPO car. I may not be what people have come to expect a COPO car is but that is only because of what certain people in the hobby have come to expect of a certain label. There were lots of different reasons for and order to go through the central office rather than the normal dealer order process.

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Let's not make it into something it is not. The central office had many functions. Special paint was not a Central Office Production Order. There is no need to generalize the term to make it fit anything the central office was involved in. Also let's face it, the owner of the car is attempting to use the term (falsely)to enhance the value of the car.

BTW this sites mission is:

"Dedicated to the promotion and preservation of the Chevrolet dealer built Supercars and COPO cars".

I don't believe we are trying to preserve Verdoro green paint on this site. Lets not continue to split hairs.

[RamAirDave]

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COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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I believe this part of K's post may have been overlooked.

[Chevy454]

If I remember correctly, the box on the buildsheet (at least in '69) said "COPO or F&SO"...so either the "COPO" or the "Fleet & Special Order" number would be in that particular box. So apparently, a fleet or special order didn't necessarily mean COPO...right?!?

[Kurt S]

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...fpart/all/vc/1
From Jim Mattison, who worked in the Central Office and processed the orders:
"During the years that I was a part of this group, we processed many orders for vehicles with special paint. Although these vehicles were ordered with "special paint", they are not concidered to be COPO cars. I'm surprised that more of these "special paint" cars haven't shown-up, as many of these orders were for performance cars."


The special paint cars just required an approval and costing. A FSO # would be assigned. 1001xA SPECIAL PAINT would be on the window sticker.

COPO's required thought and engineering. How are we going to modify this truck chassis to be 10.5 inches longer? What radiator to cool a 427 in a Camaro? The COPO # was a different format and would appear on the window sticker with the cost of the COPO.

Here's a page from Chevrolet Engineering News, December 65.

[Kurt S]

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These should be legible though I resized them a lot.