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12-11-2009, 11:44 PM
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Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs
Am I the ONLY person to think that this is complete bs that it has to be returned to the original owner? A year ago in the news there was a woman who's father purchased a 65 or 66 Mustang coupe for her and she owned it since 1971. It was suddenly "found out" that it was stolen and it had to be returned to the original owner. I would completely fight that in court. Anyone who owns a vehicle that long should not have to just give it up regardless of its history. "Grandfather clause" should be in effect. This seems to be the same case. The original person that it was stolen from should not be given the car back.
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12-12-2009, 12:47 AM
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Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs
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Am I the ONLY person to think that this is complete bs that it has to be returned to the original owner? A year ago in the news there was a woman who's father purchased a 65 or 66 Mustang coupe for her and she owned it since 1971. It was suddenly "found out" that it was stolen and it had to be returned to the original owner. I would completely fight that in court. Anyone who owns a vehicle that long should not have to just give it up regardless of its history. "Grandfather clause" should be in effect. This seems to be the same case. The original person that it was stolen from should not be given the car back. [/ QUOTE ] What about the original owner's "grandfather" rights" I am guessing you have never had a car stolen that was not covered by insurance. I have and I can tell you that it is not a pleasent feeling. The law is very clear, if you are in possession of stolen property it is to be returned to the rightful owner. In fact, you CAN be thrown in jail for having possession of it. Ususally the only people that happens to are ones the authorities can prove they KNEW it was stolen when they bought it. Is it a sad situation for an unknowing buyer? Absolutely. However, as I said in my previous post, "When you are dealing with an old car unless you have a history chain back to the original owner your are well advised to make two phone calls. One to the DMV office you plan to title it in and the other to the NCIB. The same question for both, "has this car ever been reported stolen?"" Sure the owner that has to return it to the original owner can fight in court, but the fight should not and will not be with the original owner, nor should it be, he has already had enough grief over the car. The fight should be with the person that sold it to the person that had to give it up. This can create a chain reaction back to the person reponsible for the theift or at least to someone that took possession knowing it was stolen. Judges can ask for confidential title info in this case, however many states only retain this info for a certain period of time.
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12-12-2009, 03:11 AM
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Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs
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Anyone who owns a vehicle that long should not have to just give it up regardless of its history. "Grandfather clause" should be in effect. This seems to be the same case. The original person that it was stolen from should not be given the car back. [/ QUOTE ] Matt, I think you need to go back and read all the facts that Jim Rohn provided about this situation, and I doubt you will have the same opinion you voiced above.
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12-12-2009, 04:42 AM
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Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs
Why don't they run the VIN each time a car is titled, registered, transferred or tagged?
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12-12-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs
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Why don't they run the VIN each time a car is titled, registered, transferred or tagged? [/ QUOTE ] They SHOULD, but there is still a hole in the system because the NCIB holds all the stolen car records for stolen insured cars and do not allow stat DMV offices access to their database. If they did these car would show up when trying to transfer title with the original V.I.N. intact.
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12-12-2009, 10:39 PM
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Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs
Jim,
Your friend had to know that the dealer was keeping themself out of the deal when he bought the car. I imagine there was a conversation involving making the car cheaper if the dealer was left out of the deal, etc., etc.
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12-12-2009, 11:07 PM
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Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs
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no taxes were paid by the buyer ... [/ QUOTE ] Did this transaction take place in Arizona or California? As an AZ. resident you certainly know there is no tax paid on a private party sale, right? This WAS a private party sale and the dealer acting as a salesman is not under any obligation to collect any tax. If the car was sold on a bill of sale in California but DELIVERED in AZ. there STILL is no tax due. These types of deals have been taking place legally for years.
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