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Numbers are one thing BUT brunt HP and toque is all the FUN! ![]() ![]() ![]() [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I still remember the first high horse power big block w/4 speed I drove as a kid. It pinned me to the seat so hard that I couldn't lean forward without letting off the gas to shift into 2nd gear. What a dilema, having to let go of the feeling just to shift to another gear? I was thinking about this the other day as over the years you get used to it and learn how to expect it and brace for it that the feeling is not like it was the first time. You always see it in the passenger when you nail it though. ![]() |
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Interesting thread. My only opinion is that while this is a Hemi car, I find it extremely unattractive. Not because it isn't in good shape and documented yada yada.......just because its ugly. later B and E bodies are just more appealing to many more people. You will really need to work hard to find a buyer who is into this body style and the rarity of it.
I love amost every car, new and old, but this style is just .........blah........especially when compared to the pinnacle stuff of 69, 70 and 71. Good luck with the sale. |
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Interesting thread. My only opinion is that while this is a Hemi car, I find it extremely unattractive. Not because it isn't in good shape and documented yada yada.......just because its ugly. later B and E bodies are just more appealing to many more people. You will really need to work hard to find a buyer who is into this body style and the rarity of it. I love amost every car, new and old, but this style is just .........blah........especially when compared to the pinnacle stuff of 69, 70 and 71. Good luck with the sale. [/ QUOTE ] No doubt about the fact that it is not the sleekest looking car. I personally like the looks of a 1966 Mopar 2 door hardtop better. However, I "get" the sleeper/strpper look thing as well. If you think this car is ugly take a look at the early 60s Mopars like the Max Wedge Darts and Savoys. The have a face only a mother could love. The guys that were serious about racing really didn't care about the looks, it was more about power, weight, and money. There is a BIG following for these old sleeper/stripper cars in ALL makes in the hobby, but it of course is not as big as the following of better looking old cars. It was embarassing back in the day when a car looking like your grandma's pulled up to the light and asked if you wanted to race and left you standing in the dust. |
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"The one current example I show below is a 350 h.p. car in a slightly lighter body, but still could not hold a candle to a heavier Hemi car both in the same tune on the 1320." Well I'm not so sure of this. You're probably talking about the '66 L-79 Chevy II and history shows that Bill Jenkins gave fits to Jere Stahl's Hemi Belvedere. We're talking Street Hemis here and not Race Hemis. There's a BIG difference right there and unfortunately many people get them mixed up. I've heard plenty of stories about those 66-67 Street Hemis getting there asses handed to them by those L-79 Chevy II's. Naturally, it's about power-to-weight and weight transfer and that EXTREMELY nose heavy STREET Hemi Belvedere wasn't even in the same league as the one-year earlier '65 A-990 RACE Hemi's.
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"The one current example I show below is a 350 h.p. car in a slightly lighter body, but still could not hold a candle to a heavier Hemi car both in the same tune on the 1320." Well I'm not so sure of this. You're probably talking about the '66 L-79 Chevy II and history shows that Bill Jenkins gave fits to Jere Stahl's Hemi Belvedere. We're talking Street Hemis here and not Race Hemis. There's a BIG difference right there and unfortunately many people get them mixed up. I've heard plenty of stories about those 66-67 Street Hemis getting there asses handed to them by those L-79 Chevy II's. Naturally, it's about power-to-weight and weight transfer and that EXTREMELY nose heavy STREET Hemi Belvedere wasn't even in the same league as the one-year earlier '65 A-990 RACE Hemi's. [/ QUOTE ] I am well aware of the difference of a street Hemi and a race Hemi. As bolded above is what turns a Hemi into the animal it is. Many stock 67 up Hemis were beat by the same car with a stock 440-4 HP car. The hemi simply needed distributor recurve and re-jetted carbs. If you added headers then they REALLY came alive as the engines power comes from the great flowing heads. A 66-67 Hemi powered B body built well to NHRA blueprint stock class specs will run in the high 10s |
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[ QUOTE ] Interesting thread. My only opinion is that while this is a Hemi car, I find it extremely unattractive. Not because it isn't in good shape and documented yada yada.......just because its ugly. later B and E bodies are just more appealing to many more people. You will really need to work hard to find a buyer who is into this body style and the rarity of it. I love amost every car, new and old, but this style is just .........blah........especially when compared to the pinnacle stuff of 69, 70 and 71. Good luck with the sale. [/ QUOTE ] No doubt about the fact that it is not the sleekest looking car. I personally like the looks of a 1966 Mopar 2 door hardtop better. However, I "get" the sleeper/strpper look thing as well. If you think this car is <font color="blue"> ugly </font> take a look at the early 60s Mopars like the Max Wedge Darts and Savoys. The have a face only a mother could love. The guys that were serious about racing really didn't care about the looks, it was more about power, weight, and money. There is a BIG following for these old sleeper/stripper cars in ALL makes in the hobby, but it of course is not as big as the following of better looking old cars. It was embarassing back in the day when a car looking like your grandma's pulled up to the light and asked if you wanted to race and left you standing in the dust. [/ QUOTE ] Whatchu callin' <font color="blue"> UGLY </font> ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I tell 'ya.....I just love those '62 Plymouth's & Dodges! They are my my favorites of that 62-65 era. They are an acquired taste! Check out the Mopars by Mosher website and just look at some of those '62 with the Doug's Fenderwell headers and dog dish hubcaps. Truly sinister-looking cars!
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![]() Whatchu callin' <font color="blue"> UGLY </font> ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A strong resemblance Sam, I never noticed that before! ![]() ![]() ![]() [/ QUOTE ] |
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Sam's blue beast is just too cool!
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