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Old 10-03-2009, 04:29 AM
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Orlando. The orig owner has been located. The orig selling dealer has been located. Warren has since looked in the right file and found where it was sold to Fred Gibb. It is well remembered by Gibb employee etc. Orig owner drag raced it. He even let Dick Harrell drive it to compare ET's. Great car that was missed by several people based on missing info that has been found.

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Charlie,

I did a little digging around and found that the black/red yenko was indeed sold from Fred Gibb Chevrolet. I must say that I was grossly misinformed...the dynamics as to how and why I was misinformed is pretty much a moot point at this time as the car is now with its new owner. From what I hear, looks like it is going to undergo a well deserved restoration.

As a side note, found some infomation that I thought was pretty interesting. As most people know, Don Yenko ordered many of his cars via fleet orders. Some were ordered as COPOs. The cars that received the 427 conversions however, were assigned YS#s while those that were not converted did not recieve YS#s (regardless if they were ordered from yenko chevrolet via a fleet/or COPO order).

The extent of the conversions varied depending on what the buyer wanted, hence the wide range of "conversion prices" Adding to the wide range of "conversion prices" was the fact that Don Yenko frequently conducted "side deals" with other dealerships and or private buyers that somethimes dramatically affected the selling price reflected on paper.

The crux of it all is that a YS# is needed to verify a 427 converted car. A simple fleet code or COPO order on a yenko sold car does not confirm a conversion.

In addition, the dollar amount on the yenko paperwork essentially has little to no correlation as to whether or not a car was converted.

It all boils down obtaining authentic paperwork verifying a legitimately assigned YS#.

Anyhow, wish I would of had this info early on!!
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:52 AM
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Please excuse my ignorance... but what exactly just happened here (from the start)??
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:25 AM
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Short version...Guy posts here asking for help with his vin, It is on the list as a 67 Yenko. He had just bought it on Craigs list for 17 or 18 K. A member here has it bought from him for 150K pending inspection on Monday. The member is informed by someone that should know that it is a bad car and was one of two that was stolen. Member walks away from the car based on that info. More info shows up proving the car is real and that the information of it being a stolen-stripped car is wrong. Another guy buys the car. Member is told the price is now 400K.
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:30 PM
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Thanks for the "Clill's Notes" version.
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:53 PM
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Having bounced around this site for a couple of years, I completely appreciate what I have been able to learn about this hobby and some of the nuances associated with finding and identifying some of these great finds HOWEVER I have to say that posting on this board to ask questions about a "find" draws out the sharks a bit and people get in line to "steal" the car from whoever has it. In this instance, the term "memnber" is used several times to describe different people that got involved in the process and it appears as though at least one member misinformed another in order to steal the car from under the other one. I know the concept of a fair price has been discussed here in the past and I would certainly try to get the best deal but I think the term "no honor among thieves" is appropriate on this one. If I were fortunate enough to find a potential supercar find, I have to say that coming to this site and sharing any type of detail would probably not be my first move. I know there are good guys on this site and would selectively seek them out for assistance but I would not put anything out there regarding location or any specifics about a car as people come out of the woodwork with "good intentions" and then screw you out of the deal.

Just an observation.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:49 PM
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The bad advise on the car came from outside this site and I believe the advisor believed the info he had...Just bad advise. Nobody giving bad advise with the intention to divert the sale to someone else.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:00 AM
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Thanks for the summary, I was just curious what happened here.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:38 AM
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So reading what is posted here and on Team Camaro...has the car been flipped already?
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:11 PM
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Having bounced around this site for a couple of years, I completely appreciate what I have been able to learn about this hobby and some of the nuances associated with finding and identifying some of these great finds HOWEVER I have to say that posting on this board to ask questions about a "find" draws out the sharks a bit and people get in line to "steal" the car from whoever has it. In this instance, the term "memnber" is used several times to describe different people that got involved in the process and it appears as though at least one member misinformed another in order to steal the car from under the other one. I know the concept of a fair price has been discussed here in the past and I would certainly try to get the best deal but I think the term "no honor among thieves" is appropriate on this one. If I were fortunate enough to find a potential supercar find, I have to say that coming to this site and sharing any type of detail would probably not be my first move. I know there are good guys on this site and would selectively seek them out for assistance but I would not put anything out there regarding location or any specifics about a car as people come out of the woodwork with "good intentions" and then screw you out of the deal.

Just an observation.

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^ mine too

remembering back not so long ago with those/(these same?) sharks circling around a handshake deal on a 69 COPO, one of them even drove up to the house with a trailer in an attempt to "steal" the car ...

amazing what the lure of the $iren $ong will do ... but then I would have to guess that those $harks live that way every day ... sad, so sad
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:31 PM
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Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts about this particular Camaro. We know the current owner is asking $400,000 for the car, and with it basically needing everything, projected restoration costs will exceed $100,000. Factoring in today’s economy, once restored, will the car be worth a half mil or more?
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