RogerD's 1969 Dick Harrell Chevelle

[RogerD]

Do not have a build sheet at this time . . .
Will pull the gas tank and rear panels when time permits to see if by some stretch one might be there . . .
Original front bench is long gone . . .
Posted a scanned image of the DHPC 'window sticker' and Bill Allen Chevrolet "Customer Invoice" in the previous pages . . .
Also have the original Owner Manual and 12/12 - 5/50 warranty brochure that were delivered with the car . . .

Originally Posted by Mr70

Welcome.
By chance have you located the original Buildsheet from under the backseat,carpet or door panels?
Do you have any Bill Allen Chevrolet specific documents for it as well?
It looks like it coulda been delivered from the factory to Bill Allen Chev.as a Super Sport,before being sent to DHPC where it was doctored down,(SS body emblems removed),to be a "sleeper" of sorts and have the 427cid.installed,among other items.
Do you remember if the tail panel was blacked out when you got it?
Good for you for obtaining it back.

[Mr70]

I was just wondering if you had anymore then what you already posted,to show what it was assembled as from the factory,before being sent to DHPC.
Neat stuff for sure.
Check under both backseat cushions too,as most Kansas-Leeds assemblies have had their buildsheets found there,secured with a hog ring against the springs.
Under the carpet,then both doors & rearside panels too,and even under the rear package tray speaker cardboard,while you have the backseat out.

[69Tom]

That's great Roger. Congratulations on getting your car back. I can't imagine how excited you must have been when you found it. Which I'm sure took some serious research.

Sadly, since the interior is now a different color, the original seats are long gone. And at the least, if they were recovered, they most likely wouldn't have put the build sheet back.

Did your car come with the sleeper dog dish caps, or did it have the SS wheels on it?

All in all, very cool!

[Postsedan]

Roger,

I for one truly do hope your car is the real deal.....however, lots more to learn about it...and why?

I would tend to agree with.... Mr.70

"It looks like it coulda been delivered from the factory to Bill Allen Chev.as a Super Sport,before being sent to DHPC where it was doctored down,(SS body emblems removed),to be a "sleeper" of sorts and have the 427cid.installed,among other items."

OR most likely began life as an SS going down the assemble line....this explains the 72 72 code. Otherwise it would have been a - - paint code.

"Original 12 bolt rear end with 4.10 positrack gears is gone - has a 10 bolt installed now . . ."

You`ll either have to try and find a KK code 12 bolt case. Which are getting extremely harder and harder to find. Or find a dated 12 bolt and add the 4:10`s to it.

Or another guess, is perhaps it was born with a different gear set (3:31 or 3:55) and the 4:10 was part of the DHPC?

Many questions?

Dan.

[RogerD]

Dan - My car is the real deal, just missing a few (key) components - I will plan to restore it as GM built it and as modified by Harrell's shop

Bottom line, I have THE 1969 DHPC Chevelle I bought brand new on Aug 19, 1969 - today is Aug 18, 2009 - almost 40 years later on the nose
I know it's missing a few (key) components but it will make one heck of a ride for me & Karen even if it NEVER qualifies for the 'hall of fame'

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My hat is off to Dan P (1968MotionL88) - he provided a VITAL bit of information that ultimately led to the successful tracking down of my 1969 Dick Harrell Chevelle!!!!!

Originally Posted by Postsedan

Roger,

I for one truly do hope your car is the real deal.....however, lots more to learn about it...and why?
I would tend to agree with.... Mr.70

"It looks like it coulda been delivered from the factory to Bill Allen Chev.as a Super Sport,before being sent to DHPC where it was doctored down,(SS body emblems removed),to be a "sleeper" of sorts and have the 427cid.installed,among other items."
OR most likely began life as an SS going down the assemble line....this explains the 72 72 code. Otherwise it would have been a - - paint code.

"Original 12 bolt rear end with 4.10 positrack gears is gone - has a 10 bolt installed now . . ."
You`ll either have to try and find a KK code 12 bolt case. Which are getting extremely harder and harder to find. Or find a dated 12 bolt and add the 4:10`s to it.
Or another guess, is perhaps it was born with a different gear set (3:31 or 3:55) and the 4:10 was part of the DHPC?

Many questions?

Dan.

[camarojoe]

If it was a Malibu wouldn't it likely have had a 10 bolt in it originally?... I'd be very surprised if they took a new car and swapped in a complete 12 bolt rear end, put an SS hood on it and SS wheels (if the ones in your photoshop pics are indeed the style it originally had.) not to mention the color, which generally points to an SS-only option. I'd bet a dollar to doughnuts it was an SS car from day one, and they simply removed the SS emblems prior to your purchase.

[al8apex]

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If it was a Malibu wouldn't it likely have had a 10 bolt in it originally?... I'd be very surprised if they took a new car and swapped in a complete 12 bolt rear end, put an SS hood on it and SS wheels (if the ones in your photoshop pics are indeed the style it originally had.) not to mention the color, which generally points to an SS-only option. I'd bet a dollar to doughnuts it was an SS car from day one, and they simply removed the SS emblems prior to your purchase.

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I am confused here ...

they made "plain" Camaros with 12 bolts and 427's

why couldn't they have made a "plain" Malibu with them?

I think there are too many people thinking in the wrong direction here

he has the original paperwork (it is pictured in the 1st post), the car is the same car, same vin, just 40 years later and some missing parts, why are there so many doubters?

[scuncio]

I guess I don't see how this car couldn't be 'the real deal' - the paperwork suggests it's at least a Dick Harrell conversion regardless of what it started out as. Pretty amazing luck finding this car after 40 years!

[camarojoe]

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I am confused here ...

they made "plain" Camaros with 12 bolts and 427's

why couldn't they have made a "plain" Malibu with them?

I think there are too many people thinking in the wrong direction here

he has the original paperwork (it is pictured in the 1st post), the car is the same car, same vin, just 40 years later and some missing parts, why are there so many doubters?

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Yes you are confused. No doubt its a real Harrell car, no one's questioning that. We all just want to know what it started out as prior to the DH conversion...it seems like it was more than "just" a Malibu, even before the DH conversion...at minimum it seems like it had SS equipment, and actually the more I look at it everything seems to point to it being a COPO car... Did the car have front disc brakes originally? Oh, and what's the deal with the engine block posted by Anders? Is that the block from this car?

[al8apex]

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That's great Roger. Congratulations on getting your car back. I can't imagine how excited you must have been when you found it. Which I'm sure took some serious research.

Sadly, since the interior is now a different color, the original seats are long gone. And at the least, if they were recovered, they most likely wouldn't have put the build sheet back.

Did your car come with the sleeper dog dish caps, or did it have the SS wheels on it?

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the invoice states " spec. wide stance wheels 14 x 7" I guess that could be either ... but *I* would not think plain dog dish wheel would be considered "special" (at least back then when all the "cheapie" cars had them ... )

and to the other person that asked if it had disc brakes or not, the invoice states "large power disc brakes"

also interesting to note is that it included "hood locks", simply reading the laundry list they have on the invoice answers a lot of the questions asked :