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Old 07-13-2009, 08:40 PM
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I agree. The fox's, tho very cool cars, just do not spark many people.. besides the racers.. The Newer S197's sold like mad and are quite popular and more people generally like this body style the best of Mustangs built in the past 20 years. I feel this will make them the most collectible. But ya have to wait a few years. Just enjoy em now. I am.. These cars are a blast to drive. The most fun car to drive since my old Z16
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:50 AM
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I would consider myself a Mustang guy in the circle. Like Charlie said...most people have never heard of them thus no demand past, present or future. Now low mile Factory cars are collectible to a point. 80's square Mustangs do not move many.

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I would like to add that just because they aren't widely known now, doesn't mean they never will be. It wasn't that long ago that most of the hobby was unaware of factory 427 Chevelles. The Dominators have been steadily gaining recognition over the past couple of years. At this years Midwest Ford Fest, there will be a Dominator reunion, alongside the 69 Boss 302/429 40th Anniversary display. There is a small but dedicated group of individuals who are determined to spread the word about these cars, and I think that will lead to them becoming more and more valuable as time goes on.

And I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss how many people are moved by these cars. They sold in huge numbers in their day, too. And now, almost 17 years after the last one rolled off the assembly line, the Fox specific aftermarket is bigger than ever, both on the performance and, increasingly, the restoration side of the hobby.

Sorry about the multiple posts on the topic, but what can I say? I'm passionate about the old Fox boxes.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:25 AM
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I'll put in a plug for the Fox 5.0's. I don't see how you can dismiss a car that is rivaled only by 55-57 Chevs or 67-69 Camaros in terms of being a hotrodder's "everyman" car. I personally would pay more for a mint LX 5.0/5sp or '93 Cobra than ANY '94-'04 Mustang of any type, including a Terminator. Not because they're better cars, but because that's what I was into. Finding an unmolested 5.0/5sp Fox is like trying to find a Roadrunner that hasn't had a 440 swapped into it, or a '69 Camaro that hasn't had Z/28 stripes put on it. Just like all of the iconic musclecars, most Fox 5.0's were modified, run hard, and used up. The fact that they were still decent daily drivers only made it worse, because the eastern cars got driven every winter in the salt and those 302's wouldn't blow up, so you always see cars with 100-200K miles on them. Someday I'll find the right LX 5.0 and I expect to pay more than I did for my first '69 Z28 in the mid 90's.

I remember the Dominator cars, but I think the '87-93 era will be the most sought after. As for dealer name cars that most folks never heard of, I could have made that argument 15 or 20 years ago with Dana/Nickey/and yes, YENKO. Not the guys on this board certainly, but most of the general gearhead public? Yeah.
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I'll put in a plug for the Fox 5.0's. I don't see how you can dismiss a car that is rivaled only by 55-57 Chevs or 67-69 Camaros in terms of being a hotrodder's "everyman" car. I personally would pay more for a mint LX 5.0/5sp or '93 Cobra than ANY '94-'04 Mustang of any type, including a Terminator. Not because they're better cars, but because that's what I was into. Finding an unmolested 5.0/5sp Fox is like trying to find a Roadrunner that hasn't had a 440 swapped into it, or a '69 Camaro that hasn't had Z/28 stripes put on it. Just like all of the iconic musclecars, most Fox 5.0's were modified, run hard, and used up. The fact that they were still decent daily drivers only made it worse, because the eastern cars got driven every winter in the salt and those 302's wouldn't blow up, so you always see cars with 100-200K miles on them. Someday I'll find the right LX 5.0 and I expect to pay more than I did for my first '69 Z28 in the mid 90's.

I remember the Dominator cars, but I think the '87-93 era will be the most sought after. As for dealer name cars that most folks never heard of, I could have made that argument 15 or 20 years ago with Dana/Nickey/and yes, YENKO. Not the guys on this board certainly, but most of the general gearhead public? Yeah.

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Truth. When I finally decided to get serious and build the notch I'd had in my mind for years, I finally ended paying way too much for an average 4-cylinder car. Not a big deal since everything is being replaced (Full suspension, a 427W, and a TKO 600 ought to get it down the street okay), but these things are getting impossible to find in decent condition.

Side note, while looking for a suitable notch, I was lucky enough to check out a factory black over red 5.0 5-speed 88 notch with ZERO options. It was even a radio delete car. 8,000 original miles and all paper back to the selling dealer. It wasn't what I was looking for, since I intended to modify, but I had to ask the owner what it would take to own it. He smiled and said "More than you have."
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I'll put in a plug for the Fox 5.0's. I don't see how you can dismiss a car that is rivaled only by 55-57 Chevs or 67-69 Camaros in terms of being a hotrodder's "everyman" car. I personally would pay more for a mint LX 5.0/5sp or '93 Cobra than ANY '94-'04 Mustang of any type, including a Terminator. Not because they're better cars, but because that's what I was into. Finding an unmolested 5.0/5sp Fox is like trying to find a Roadrunner that hasn't had a 440 swapped into it, or a '69 Camaro that hasn't had Z/28 stripes put on it. Just like all of the iconic musclecars, most Fox 5.0's were modified, run hard, and used up. The fact that they were still decent daily drivers only made it worse, because the eastern cars got driven every winter in the salt and those 302's wouldn't blow up, so you always see cars with 100-200K miles on them. Someday I'll find the right LX 5.0 and I expect to pay more than I did for my first '69 Z28 in the mid 90's.

I remember the Dominator cars, but I think the '87-93 era will be the most sought after. As for dealer name cars that most folks never heard of, I could have made that argument 15 or 20 years ago with Dana/Nickey/and yes, YENKO. Not the guys on this board certainly, but most of the general gearhead public? Yeah.

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Around Halloween 1983 I took delivery of a Charcoal Grey/Grey interior 5.0 5 speed. I was looking for a grey car but wanted a stripper. I had seen the 4 speed cars ( really 3 speed with overdrive ) but wanted a 5 speed. A sales guy from Mahwah Ford in NJ called me and said that coming off the train as we speak is a grey 5.0, but not a stripper. . I said I'd be there tomorrow. Went the next day and they had not even dealer prepped the car. They took it from the rear lot hit it with a hoes and gave me the keys. Drove it around the block came back and made the deal. The thought of a 4bbl Holley equiped car in those years was unheard of. Like going back in time. In the next few years I did Day 2 stuff on her. Original block and heads, just bolt on stuff really. I've always kept the original parts. Living in NY I knew this could not survive winters so I garaged it all the time in winter. Always had NY beaters to drive in the snowy months. Well life moved on and the Mustang kept getting pushed further back and Mini vans and small cars took over. Kids, school you guys know the drill. Every so often I would start her up or take her out but not much. In the last 6-7 years I bet I put 400 miles on her, maybe. I recently unburied her again. Changed the oil etc and took her out. What a blast. World class 5 speed with 373 gears and you are off to the races. Unfortunetly around mid way 3rd gear power levels off. Afterall this is a stock 175 hp car, currently maybe 230. Runs 13.70 1/4 around 100. It has 30,000 original miled. Looks good ( NO rust etc )but could use some new paint. The car covers over the years seem to have done more harm then good. Also it has T roofs and the weather stripping should be replaced. Health issues in the 90's almost had me sell her but my wife would not have it. Thanks B eth !! I'm not saying this will be of any great value but an original 4 eye GT might be worth it in a few years since you see less and less. Sorry for the long post but this thread just got me thinking of the old girl again. Once I retire in 3-4 yeras I will do her justice....Geoff
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:36 AM
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Beings that I run a registry for the 1982 to 1990 Dominator Mustangs... and came across this post. I have to Agree 100% with this. Special Edition Fox Chassis cars are already becoming collectors items. The Saleens, Predators, Dominators, MClaren Capri's, all already have a following that will only continue to grow.

checkout http://www.foureyedpride.com and see just how many faithful to the Fox's there are...

Old5.0 Thanks for spreading the word about the Dominators! I want to find every single one still on the Road!

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IMO, if any of these cars become true collectibles it's so far down the road many of us won't be around to see it. At present, Roush and Saleen cars garner more attention than GT500's (except the KR), because they are fewer of them. The GT500's that probably will become the collectibles in the distant future are the KR and GT500's modified by Shelby into 600 and 700HP Super Snakes. Also, depends what you want the car for. If it's fast fun, get a GT500, but don't expect it to appreciate in value for years, if ever. IMO, the Roush,Saleen and Shelby built Mustangs have a better chance to hold their value and become collectibles in the years ahead.

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The Fox cars will become collectible first. Starting with the dealer specials like the Dominators. Especially the early '83-'84 Dominators with the head work, solid cams, no smog equipment, cold air kits, special MSD ignition, non emissions Holley, etc. Then the race cars. Famous cars like Mike Murrillo's Star Car 1, Brian Wolfe's 86 GT, Stormin' Norman's red turbo 'Vert, etc. And then period modified cars. The Fox movement went through several distinct periods where certain mods were common, and the guys who grew up in those particular periods will be willing to pay good money for a solid, well built car done in the style they like. Notchbacks will lead the way in value in that category. My 2 cents.

EDIT: I should add that I include Saleen's, Steeda's, etc. in the dealer special category.

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