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My set of plates start with WEG and are stamped with the 63 on the right side.
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Martin Foltz 68 Camaro SS-396 L35/M20, Corvette Bronze, black vinyl top George Olsen Chevrolet San Francisco |
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I went to the DMV in West Covina, CA this morning to get the Black plates reassigned to my 69 Z. The plates were the ones that were on the car when I pulled it from a backyard in West Covina, CA 10 years ago. The car had been sitting in the same place for over 20 yrs. The rear plate had 1970 and 1971 stickers showing, with the 1971 sticker obviously placed over the white 1969 sticker. Neither plate was stamped 1963. The plates are ZSB XXX. There were no month stickers on the plates. The License plate frames on the car both front and rear were from Hovey Dallas Chevrolet in Gardena CA. From talking with the family that I purchased the car from (original owners), these were the original plates for the car. Unfortunately they could not locate any old registrations or title to link the black plate number to the VIN number. The car was out of the DMV system due to inactivity of registration for so many years, so when I bought it the DMV would not reassign the black plates. Anyway, at the DMV today I got the usual different answer from each person that I spoke with. None of the window people seemed to be familiar with California AB462 that allows the reassignment of the black plate. After the inital person that I spoke with told me " No Way" when I asked to have the plates reassigned to my vehicle, I spoke with a couple of supervisors regarding the matter. Luckily I had printed out and brought with my a summary from the internet in regards to California AB462. After they made a call to Sacramento, they agreed to let my have the plates reassigned, but, ONLY if I could produce a complete, legible, original 1969 California registration sticker. So... I spent 30 minutes chipping the 1971 registration sticker (under strict DMV supervision) to uncover the original 1969 registration sticker. I was then "allowed" to have the black plates reassigned. Bottom line.... You'll need a set of two black plates, in good condition, with one plate showing the California registration sticker for the year of the vehicle that you want the plate assinged to. They also require current registration, insurance, and a $20.00 doller per year "retention fee" for the plates. They didnt seem to be concerned with the sequential issue of plates, in that plates with the letter sequence starting with the letters X, Y, and Z were correct for a 1969 year model car. They were only concerned with the condition of the plates and that the approriate year registration sticker was present. I know this procedure will vary with each DMV office, and each DMV representitive, even though it should be standardized. Funny how a guy can walk into the DMV office with good intentions and get the runaround for something so simple. In light of the states financial problem, you'd think that if I brought my own plates in, along with cash payment, it would be a smooth deal to accomplish what is legal and just. Thanks for the rant....!!!!
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302Z, So,the plates are reissued for a Hugger Orange with white stripes and flat hood original paint car with a couple dents and no spoiler? That's a good Z.
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I went to the DMV in West Covina, CA this morning to get the Black plates reassigned to my 69 Z. The plates were the ones that were on the car when I pulled it from a backyard in West Covina, CA 10 years ago. They didnt seem to be concerned with the sequential issue of plates, in that plates with the letter sequence starting with the letters X, Y, and Z were correct for a 1969 year model car. They were only concerned with the condition of the plates and that the approriate year registration sticker was present. [/ QUOTE ] Trying to JOG my memory here... As I recall, Black Plates in California for the Year 1969 started in the "X - - 123" ( <---EXAMPLE) alpha timeline. Ill have to go take a look again at my friend's August 1968 VN Z28 and reread his plates again but he started his titling here in California back in September, 1968 for his car and his start with the " X " alpha. " Y " alpha beginnings were around October/November 1968. I do not recall when they ended. " Z " alpha started I think in around April/May 1969. My PaceCar sat for a while before it was sold new and it came with Blue California plates. I think it was around January, 1970 that it sold and titled and received the Blue. Those Plates started with the numerals followed by an " A " alpha. (Example : 123 Axx )
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I am trying to remember here.......
The Z plates may have started earlier than what I have posted. ![]()
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I am trying to remember here....... [/ QUOTE ] The Z plates may have started earlier than what I have posted. For what it's worth. I was released from active duty from the Navy May 4 1970. I moved up to Ingelwood near LAX and sometime that first few weeks of May I got Cali plates on my car, ZZA 219. Does that sound about right ? When were the last black plates used up ? |
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"I was released from active duty from the Navy May 4 1970."
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I am trying to remember here....... [/ QUOTE ] The Z plates may have started earlier than what I have posted. For what it's worth. I was released from active duty from the Navy May 4 1970. I moved up to Ingelwood near LAX and sometime that first few weeks of May I got Cali plates on my car, ZZA 219. Does that sound about right ? When were the last black plates used up ? [/ QUOTE ] ZZA is getting down to the end, in theory the highest sequence would have been ZZZ 999,so May 70 is well within reason. Like Warren stated,there were blue plates in circulation in the fall of 69 far before the official DMW release date of 7/70. People buying new would receive there plates directly from DMV,while branch offices also issued them for all other purposes(lost,stolen,registering from out of state etc) Y&Z are the predominant sequence for 69 MY vehicles, but in some very rare cases like on your freinds sept built and my oct 68 car they have X series. I have only seen one other original X plate 69, would love to see what your freinds sept car was. ![]() |
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Here is a pic of a car I onced owned. I bought from the original owners family. Its a ZVX plate. I had the original title and the car was first registered on 10/9/69.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I am trying to remember here....... [/ QUOTE ] Y&Z are the predominant sequence for 69 MY vehicles, but in some very rare cases like on your freinds sept built and my oct 68 car they have X series. I have only seen one other original X plate 69, would love to see what your freinds sept car was. [/ QUOTE ] He lives about 2 miles from me, has ALL of the paperwork from when he bought it from the dealer. Ill let you know ASAP! Pretty thick stack, if I recall correctly. His is a LOS built Daytona Yellow RS/Z with NO Cowl Induction , as ordered! Even the paint is original and has the correct stencil stripes around the Camaro emblem on the trunk. Chambered Exhuast is still on it! ![]()
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