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[Kim_Howie]

.8 two beers an hour will put you pass legal limit. I know, I have been there. I was stopped 7 years ago. I blew barely over. I refused the test {long story} I walked one year. No lic. to drive. I don't consider myself a SCUMBAG. Yes you are right, the mulitiple offense people belong in rehab & or jail. The in some states are very relaxed and some very harsh. In Iowa you can kill several people and spend less time in prison than some first off. owi with injuries involved.

[Jim Ferron]

Kim, just to set the record straight...I never called anyone a scumbag...that was someone else.

A question...you said you barely blew over and then said you refused the test [??] In Iowa you can take the test then somehow..refuse it?

I know my lawyer friend told me to NEVER, EVER take the test..once you do [and fail ]you are screwed..

But he says..no matter how drunk you are..if you don't take the test he will get you off [mass] of course get ready to pony up $40,000...might as well take the Vette...

[PeteLeathersac]

Here in Ontario Canada I believe refusal to blow is automatically considered the same as blowing over plus maybe an additional fine too?.

Our first offence gets a one year suspension plus a subsequent year of driving a 'blowmobile'...your car w/ an approximate $3000.00 blow monitor ignition-disabler device, rental/installation/maintenance at your cost..

The only way around the 'blowmobile' thing is running the two full years without driving or you can motorbike for the second year being there's no blow machines for bikes yet?.

Snowmobiling/4 Wheeling on our Provincial trail systems is well monitored by the Police and considered the same as being on the roads here so you can lose your licence or be nabbed running under suspension on a weekend w/ the boys!.


~ Pete

[gb70]

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[Kim_Howie]

Jim, I never said you said I was a scumbag. OK. The state of Mass. is different than Iowa. In Iowa you have two breath test. One in the field {at your car} to see if they need to arrest you. Then at the station. That is the one that counts in court. This one I refused. When you refuse in Iowa you lose your lic. One year period. You can not fight it. I read the test refusal papers. The first thing on it asked if you are on drugs!! I tolded the officer I didn't do drugs. He stated right there I quote "he has refused the test". I was than charged with "under the infuence" 12,000.00 dollars later I was convicted. The police lied all the way to court. I won't go into that. The funny thing about the Iowa laws is you can be charged with this crime and pass the breath test. All they have to say is they think you are "under the infuence". Then you have to hire a lawyer, and of course they drop the charges. It just cost you 4,000.00 to prove it. But it STILL go's on your driving record in our state. Being an insurance agent I have seen this time after time.

[Kim_Howie]

Think about it I had to walk all the way to the bar & then home for a whole year. Thats just not right. JUST KIDDIN

[Jim Ferron]

I agree the police have the ability to just plain screw up you life over this thing..

Same in Mass though as far as refusing the test...refuse it , and I believe lic. is gone..six months no way out...

On the other hand..my lawyer connection routinely gets repeat offenders [5-6 time ]hardship licenses..8 to 8 licenses...blow mobile licenses...all depends on how bad you want it and how much you will spend..and that ain't right.

Car dealers and Lawyers...wtf..

[I'm a car dealer btw]

[Kim_Howie]

I at the time thought the SYSTEM worked. I didn't play the game. I found out the SYSTEM is in fact green. All about the money. Very few rich people in prison!!!

[ANDY M]

So Kim, you "tolded" the officer you weren't on drugs, and he didn't believe you?