Go Back   The Supercar Registry > General Discussion > Technical & Restoration


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-27-2009, 09:19 PM
ORIGLS6 ORIGLS6 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fishin' in the Dark
Posts: 7,410
Thanks: 1,102
Thanked 509 Times in 145 Posts
Default Re: Body Bolt Resto A simple How To

[ QUOTE ]


You'll still piss the 'vette dudes off!

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you saying that's a bad thing?
__________________
Don't mistake education for intelligence. I worked with educated people. I socialize with intelligent people.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-27-2009, 09:28 PM
mockingbird812's Avatar
mockingbird812 mockingbird812 is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Dayton
Posts: 14,416
Thanks: 912
Thanked 805 Times in 488 Posts
Default Re: Body Bolt Resto A simple How To


__________________
Sam...

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-27-2009, 10:39 PM
CamarosRus CamarosRus is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Auburn,WA (between Sea&Tac)
Posts: 2,681
Thanks: 113
Thanked 257 Times in 93 Posts
Default Re: Body Bolt Resto A simple How To

I wanted to suggest that Manganese Phosphate plating is/was the correct finish for many fasteners........

Below are comments from Jeff Betz..........known Camaro restorer, Carlisle judge, former GM and current Chysler engineer at eng mfg plant in metro Detroit..............

I am certain that Zinc Phosphate is not correct for the bolts. I'm
also certain that the manganese phos is correct! I looked up the plating
spec on bolts and believe me there are only 3 major suppliers of bolts:
Ring Screw (Textron), Cold Heading, and I can't remember the other one. We
still deal with them all here and nothing has changed. To each their
own...so I won't tell someone how to restore their car. I will always give
my opinion if asked, and will always reveal my restoration method or a
better one if I know one. Good luck to your friend with the zinc plating
on the fasteners. Just another side note, I believe it would be okay to
dock points off a diamond car for having painted fasteners, a practice that
I told you some of the "top" restorers do use.

Actually zinc phosphate is an excellent plating to use on something before
you paint it. It is a recommended plating to be used under painted parts.
I did my door hinges in the zinc phos before I put them on the car and
painted them of course. It is an excellent "primer".

As far as your bolts coming out too dark? Not sure. I know some of mine
are pretty dark. Your bellcrank...remember, different amounts of iron and
densities of metal will plate different. The bellcrank is a tube (drawn or
stamped and welded) with two stamped brackets. Notice the tube has less
pores than the brackets welded on each end. That all factors in to how
well they will plate.

I just use one of those camping type cooktops with two propane burners.
Coleman makes it. Works great. Fasteners and items that are to be
somewhat "black" get the manganese phos and the latches and such get the
"grey" zinc phosphate. Nice thing is different metals plate different
shades of the stuff, so it doesn't all look the exact same.

MANY people have found that BoeShield T-9 works very well as a rust inhibitor. Any process will need periodic maintennace to keep fresh look.

Below is address for chemical supplier


PALMETTO Enterprises
2311 A Old Parker Road
Greenville,SC 29609
864 246 3836
__________________
Chuck Sharin
[email protected]
Auburn,WA (30 miles South of Seattle)
70 Camaro R/S Z-28, L-78, R/S SS
69 Camaro COPO "recreation"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-27-2009, 10:40 PM
Salvatore Salvatore is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 9,908
Thanks: 3
Thanked 229 Times in 193 Posts
Default Re: Body Bolt Resto A simple How To

Hey Jeff, I am sending a box of stuff your way!! Thanks for the info. Sam
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-27-2009, 10:47 PM
beater68427 beater68427 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 577
Thanks: 5
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Body Bolt Resto A simple How To

[ QUOTE ]
Hey Jeff, I am sending a box of stuff your way!! Thanks for the info. Sam

[/ QUOTE ]
Any time Sam I will be sure not to set it by the bar now where did I put that thing
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-28-2009, 12:48 AM
Salvatore Salvatore is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 9,908
Thanks: 3
Thanked 229 Times in 193 Posts
Default Re: Body Bolt Resto A simple How To


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-28-2009, 02:22 AM
WILMASBOYL78's Avatar
WILMASBOYL78 WILMASBOYL78 is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: new york
Posts: 8,357
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2,150 Times in 584 Posts
Default Re: Body Bolt Resto A simple How To

Here's another idea on this subject...I don't know how hot the propane torch makes the bolts..but, why couldn't you just "bake" them in a 400* oven for a half hour or so and then do the oil bath....if opening up the pores in the metal is the goal then this should work....you could also do a bunch at one time....just an idea.

ps...don't use your wife's good roasting pan
__________________
02 Berger 380hp #95
Lots of L78 Novas
Join National Nostalgic Nova!
70 Orange Cooler
69 Camaro
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

O Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.