Olds W30

[Canuck]

I have looked at the photos of this car and it appears to be a beautiful restoration.
What concerns me when a car is presented by one of the countrys top restoration shops, are the number of variances from stock when one is lead to believe the car is factory correct because "so and so" did it.
The shop may have a reputation for beautiful paint,panel fit and upholstery but its the details that hurt a car from being presented as top of its class.
On this car I see the following:

Chrome wheels are incorrect for the year.
Spare wheel lookks like a 14X6 from a 69 or earlier.
Spare tire doesnt match (why have a radial spare with bias ply street tires)
Toronado Oil Pan
Sway bar links in upside down
Over stickered. Rear end has a Coil spring ID tag on it.
Aftemarket rear sway bar with an Olds assembly line tag.
Wrong placement of jack tag.
Body plugs should be splatter covered in trunk.

If you are going to spend that kind of money yo restore this car,spend the extra $1000 and get a Gardner Exhaust.

I saw another 70 442 at BJ Las Vegas, heavily promoted as a Thorton Car, the complete interior was wrong.

As I said I dont know if some of these errors are the customer or the restoration shop. I guess the guy paying the bills has the choice in what they want on their car.

Paul

[RM Schimel]

Paul,

I think the problem with Elliott Jaffe’s Twilight Blue ragtop and this current Matador red ragtop being discussed is there are just too many questions about legitimacy. The discriminating collector will only pay heavily for a car that has a completely solid pedigree & history and clearly these cars did not.

RM

[Canuck]

I agree 100%.
When Elliott was selling his car a few years ago i was contacted by a serious buyer in North Carolina who would have paid $200,000 +, but wanted to see a legaitimate build sheet. He was happy with the way the car was presented but wanted the right paperwork to back it up.

The present discussion Red/White car just had to have too much stuff replaced to be called a restored car.

Your description of what a "discriminating" buyer addresses the real issue. There are just too few Olds to fit that catagory.

Paul

[agtw31]

where's the pics of this barn find?

[JK98SS]

thread is worthless without pics