Barrett Jackson COPO Camaro

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Speed Commentator comments really got me....

"A rebody is kind of like George Washington's AX, it just got another handle-but is it still Geroge Washington's AX??"

"I remember several years ago when a ZL-1 would bring over 1 Million dollars- Welcome to 2009"

My fear is that the Hobby has reached a new low with the value reputation for ZL-1 and Yenko Nova's now injured through the sale of these cars and the remarks by the speed commentators. Not Good.

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This one hit me pretty hard as well. They (Mike Joy) made a big deal about where a stripe on a trunk lid ended, but then made the comment above. Doesn't make sense to me.

[m22mike]

Did anyone else catch the COPO Vin comment by the other on stage guy with the little camera ?
He said something like....You can go to the "COPO Connection" , they have ALL the Vin's for all the COPO's built...

Mike

[CamarosRus]

As a recap man from East Moline,IL Mike M partnered with Tom R to buy the "clone" #27 ZL-1 at B/J 2009.

Mike M told me in Jan 09, after the auction and all that ensued that he was going to have local (to him) well known restorer check out misc firewall and cowl VIN numbers on #27.

Phone call that I made today 1/7/2010 my source claims that nothing was removed from car and no numbers were ever checked.
Mike M is no longer partner in car and I believe Tom R owns car outright.

I have digitized more old print pics. Below shows (2nd from top, all one color) Candy Red Camaro at Tacoma Dome Car Show. This is SAME car as Multi Colered drag car that I built from ZL-1 body, chassis, trim parts. This all red 69 Camaro is still in WA state and has a different VIN and title as #27 VIN tag and title was sold to "cloner" to build the current Fathom Green #27.

[ZL1#17]

Chuck, Have you talked to the guy who bought the race car you built with #27 VIN? I would like to know how this guy marketed a VIN plate with title?

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Speed Commentator (Mike Joy) comments really got me....

"A rebody is kind of like George Washington's AX, it just got another handle-but is it still Geroge Washington's AX??"
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That was the craziest thing I heard til the voices in my head asked me; "If Mike Joy needed a colonostomy, could he still be called an axehole?"

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I posted this on TC, but it applies to this thread too...

If you use that same "George Washington's axe" arguement, you should be able to use this analogy...

I am sure that most people have seen an episode or two of "Antiques Roadshow" or at least heard about someone that had a highly desireable piece of funiture or antique and when they brought it to an appraiser, they had either cleaned it up too much or sanded and refinished it. The appraiser always says that "in its original condition, it would have brought 'X' money, but since you cleaned/refinished it, it has been DEVALUED to 'X' money."

The same should apply to the cars (legal issues aside) if they are trying to make the comparison. A rebody should never be worth close to the price of the original article.

[Shevelle]

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Speed Commentator (Mike Joy) comments really got me....

"A rebody is kind of like George Washington's AX, it just got another handle-but is it still Geroge Washington's AX??"
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That was the craziest thing I heard til the voices in my head asked me; "If Mike Joy needed a colonostomy, could he still be called an axehole?"



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[Dayton]

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Speed Commentator (Mike Joy) comments really got me....

"A rebody is kind of like George Washington's AX, it just got another handle-but is it still Geroge Washington's AX??"
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Lets examine Mike Joys logic. Lets say you have George's original ax. Ax head and handle intact. You buy an ax at Home Depot. You remove George's ax head and put it with a Home Depot handle. You place the Home Depot ax head on George's handle. Now you have 2 original George Washington ax's.

[70 copo]

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Speed Commentator comments really got me....

"A rebody is kind of like George Washington's AX, it just got another handle-but is it still Geroge Washington's AX??"

"I remember several years ago when a ZL-1 would bring over 1 Million dollars- Welcome to 2009"

My fear is that the Hobby has reached a new low with the value reputation for ZL-1 and Yenko Nova's now injured through the sale of these cars and the remarks by the speed commentators. Not Good.

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Anyone still watching at the final closing comments tonight right at the close of coverage?? I believe It was Mike Joy who said:

"prices for COPO's and Yenkos are not what they were"

So-We have some cars that are questionable, Bidders are smart, the cars bring bring fair value and suddenly the media commentator passes judgement on an entire hobby segment.

[Chevy454]

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Anyone still watching at the final closing comments tonight right at the close of coverage?? I believe It was Mike Joy who said:

"prices for COPO's and Yenkos are not what they were"

So-We have some cars that are questionable, Bidders are smart, the cars bring bring fair value and suddenly the media commentator passes judgement on an entire hobby segment.

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Phil, they're simply attempting to justify this fiasco...