63 SS Nova COPO ???????

[wagonman]

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quite simply put..

there are zero 63 chevyII's with a factory installed V8

also vin's were not installed on 1963 chevyII power plants...

just engine suffix code and assy date...

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couldn't you get a trim tag and build sheet for this?

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sure could......

as a matter of fact,i even have the correct 3862194 casting number 283.this is a special chevyII only block!complete carb to pan! with all correct components.

rebuilt and ready to go........

hmmm......maybe put it in my 1963 ss convertible?

[wagonman]

As I stated before, information compiled by CHEVROLET CORP indicates 3 V8 '63 Chevy-IIs were factory built. Those are real documents.

Verne



would love to see these doc's......

does wayne bushey know about these three vehicles?

[Paul_S]

Verne,

Do these documents say anything else? -as to separating production by plant.

I don't have an issue with the Sept. assembled engine in a 03C car... these were not in full production. A short run of engines to fill the service demand and three factory builds.. you better believe their going to be sitting around for a while. Very low on the priority list compared to High volume $$ making production.

All of the Oakland data plates I've seen have a four digit code after the accessories. -not sure what it's for. Well, I've probably only seen 6 Oakland plates since most I see is Norwood. What happened to the Oakland plant after '63?

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Bob,
It is not common at all to see a number like the 2455 on the ACC line. It is not a typical cryptic option code. From my experience with these cars, I"d say that is a COPO or F&SO order number.

As I stated before, information compiled by CHEVROLET CORP indicates 3 V8 '63 Chevy-IIs were factory built. Those are real documents.

Verne

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wow!! so this appears to be a REAL copo 63 nova SS

[Dog427435]

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[JayR]

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Bob,
It is not common at all to see a number like the 2455 on the ACC line. It is not a typical cryptic option code. From my experience with these cars, I"d say that is a COPO or F&SO order number.

As I stated before, information compiled by CHEVROLET CORP indicates 3 V8 '63 Chevy-IIs were factory built. Those are real documents. Verne

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Verne, I learned many years ago to 'never say never' when it comes to cars built in this era. It seems anything was possible. The production info showing 3 V/8 Chevy II's built in 1963 is very interesting. Thank you for posting it. This is new stuff to me.

As for the Oakland trim tags, I believe I've also seen others with 4 digit numbers on the ACC line. The Oakland tags were always somewhat different than other plants. Note on this car they used the normal accessory codes on the ACC line, but the actual M35 RPO number for the transmission.
Bob

[Paul_S]

Thanks for posting the production info.. yes, very interesting.

I believe this is the first Oakland tag I've seen with an RPO but maybe it's not uncommon for that plant.

[Verne_Frantz]

Well, I have to admit that I don't spend much time collecting info from Novas. It's very interesting that the 4 digit code is indeed common on them. The only such codes I've seen on full size cars were absolutely COPO or F&SO.

Thanks to Glenn for posting the Chevy documents. Those are the ones I was referring to that I have.
And no, they don't show any production totals by plant. Those were different forms and only showed monthly ending VINs, with no other information about the cars.

I also find it interesting that Oakland used both cryptic codes and RPO#s at the same time. No full size plant did that in the 58-64 time period.

Verne

[wagonman]

i will se wayne bushey in a few weeks.....i will definately bring this up.

a factory built 1963 nova! wow!

i would love to be the person to inform him on this,but i truly feel i'm not the one that should....

i'm just a student on this!!!!!!!

so i will go and stand in the corner now.....


i am truly humbled at these docs....3 63 v8 novas built from the factory......

as mentioned from jayR in an earlier post"'never say never' when it comes to cars built in this era. It seems anything was possible."

how true that seems to be......

ok,

now it would be interesting to see the engine casting date,suffix code.ex manifolds casting dates.and see if they used a v8 version of the powerglide.one more forward clutch if my memory serves me.

[JayR]

Just polled a few owners of 63 Chevy II's built in Oakland. Seems they all had 4 digit numbers at the end of the ACC line, and all different. One owner said the dealer had the number from his car as the stock# on the sales agreement. It also seems transmission code M35 was the only actual RPO code they used on the cowl tag. All the rest are single letter codes. It may be of interest that Canadian built Chevy II's had the actual RPO codes on the cowl tag, sometimes including the engine. The ACC line on my L79 read M20L79A81. The A81 was the rare, bucket seat headrest option.

Bob