Where is ZL-1 #66?

[COPO]

Too many details missing to draw any conclusions. I think everyone is interested in exposing fakes, but short of bonafide proof, then most would take a cautious approach before passing judgement on either party. I am waiting to see "the river card".

[Charley Lillard]

ZL1#17...Are you positive what Bill is saying is true ? Did Bill just call the dealer or did he get law enforcement involved ? Are you telling me he finds the ZL1 he has ownership of, calls the dealer, they blow him off and he lets it go at that ? We are taliking about a car worth somewhere around a million dollars and he lets it go at that ? There is clearly more to this story that Bill is not telling us and he even hinted at it. You are trashing a car without facts and it is very unfair to the owner of the car. Please post facts if you or Bill have them but stop calling the car a fake just because Bill says it might be. Bill is 95% sure it was crushed. What if it turns out to be the 5% and the car was not crushed but you and Bill trashed it ? Bill needs to quit playing games...If he has a "river card" that proves his case he needs to play it and stop all this crap !

[69motion]

IM all fore exposing fakes as u all know im with Charlie on this one i dont think bill is telling all the facts if i had proof of ownership id be calling my lawyer let him call the police to sort it out. Then legally get the car impounded until the court case is over and if car 66 wasnt my car id pay lawyer fees for the guy out west and apologise to him for the incoviniece ive caused <font color="red"> </font> MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL JEFF

[nuch_ss396]

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....if i had proof of ownership id be calling my lawyer let him call the police to sort it out. Then legally get the car impounded until the court case is over and if car 66 wasnt my car id pay lawyer fees for the guy out west and apologise to him for the incoviniece ive caused

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I prefer to stay out of these Supercar fights because they
do tend to get nasty. But I have to say that I agree with
this statement. Start the legal proceedings and let the
lawyers sort it out. If a bona-fide ZL-1, it's worth much
more than the legal fees.

However, I am very interested to learn if the ZL-1 in
question is proported to have its original drivetrain.
This is a point I have raised here many times concerning
all these Supercars with original "born with" components.

We should all want to know the conclusion to this story
for the sake of our hobby.

Steve

[Xplantdad]

Rick,

The issue with this is how it's being done. Why so much melodrama here?

IF this person is telling the truth...then he needs to lay it ALL out on the table with no BS-start to finish.

Like Charley said...stick to the FACTS...not "I heard this from..."

[69LM1]

"However, I am very interested to learn if the ZL-1 in
question is proported to have its original drivetrain.
This is a point I have raised here many times concerning
all these Supercars with original "born with" components.
We should all want to know the conclusion to this story
for the sake of our hobby.
Steve "

I agree steve. I certinly do not know either of the people involved. BUT, if #66 is reported to have the born with drivetrain, and, this guy Bill has the original motor and rear, then Houston, someone has a problem.

Also, for the sake of argument, if I were the owner of a 1M$+ #66, and I really belived it to be real and #Match, I would be on here in a heartbeat to state my claim.

Just sayin, that argument goes both ways.

Has anyone gone to see the ebay ZL1 drivetrain to see if it looks real? The #66 Drivetrain?

Sucks for somebody.

Rich

[rich p]

Reminds me of the movie Hang'm High with Clint Eastwood !!

Remember the beginning of the Movie ?????????????

SOME of you guys like to shoot first and ask ?'s later..

[x Baldwin Motion]

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I cannot believe the attitude of some members here. Why not expose a fake, if that’s what it is? After reading some of the posts it’s clear that some sYc members are upset and angry at Bill for exposing this car in public. I ask why? Bill is only trying to get to the truth of the matter by exposing his situation in public, and I commend him for that. Bill has stated that he contacted the dealer in Arizona and they blew him off. Bill has stated that he feels 95% sure the car was crushed, so why is there a car 66? I know one this is sure, if ZL-1 #66 is up for sale I’m going to approach it with caution, what about the rest of you? THANKS Bill!! Correct me if I’m wrong, if any sYc member doesn’t think that exposing a FAKE ZL-1 on this site is important and relevant then I can only assume that you embrace the fraud and deceit that is prevalent in this hobby?

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I cant imagine anyone on this site not wanting to expose a fake. so far nothing has been exposed, no fake car, no real car. I dont see anyone angry here, just many concerned enthusiasts that are trying to keep our hobby honest.
I dont how it would be even remotely possible for someone to fake a ZL1 that just happens to have the same picked out of a hat VIN as a ZL1 that was sitting in a junk yard or crushed or stolen unless they had that car or knowledge of it or its tags.
If I saw my missing car for sale or was told by a reliable source that it existed and was for sale you can bet your rear end I'd be there with my old photos, registration stubs, bill of sale, insurance cards and the freakin police. And that is for my 66 caprice that would only be worth about 10 grand if it has been garaged since it went missing 20 years ago.
so cut the crap and lay out the facts!!

JMHO


Chris

[Belair62]

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I cannot believe the attitude of some members here. Why not expose a fake, if that’s what it is? After reading some of the posts it’s clear that some sYc members are upset and angry at Bill for exposing this car in public. I ask why? Bill is only trying to get to the truth of the matter by exposing his situation in public, and I commend him for that. Bill has stated that he contacted the dealer in Arizona and they blew him off. Bill has stated that he feels 95% sure the car was crushed, so why is there a car 66? I know one this is sure, if ZL-1 #66 is up for sale I’m going to approach it with caution, what about the rest of you? THANKS Bill!! Correct me if I’m wrong, if any sYc member doesn’t think that exposing a FAKE ZL-1 on this site is important and relevant then I can only assume that you embrace the fraud and deceit that is prevalent in this hobby?

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Nobody exposed a fake yet. How the hell do YOU know it's a fake ? Pretty stupid comment about people on this site not wanting to expose fraud. You are reading the thread here right ? If you choose to make your decision based on what "Bill" has said...go for it...I see absolutely no proof of anything concrete. In fact I don't really have any stake in this and I really dont care. I would assume you don't either other than to help the hobby right?.I will make my own decision when the cards have all been laid on the table along with others on the site.. Don't run your mouth about who on this site may have "embraced the fraud" ...thats just talking out of school...if you are offended that people are questioning the whole story ..as they should...go elsewhere.

[Steven J]

Was this car ever registered to someone in Michigan ?