Collector Car Fraud!!!

[af1fe]

The Jerry Macneish comment-- I'm sure he'll fly all over the country to appear in court to testify. Uh huh...

Jerry has also been known to drive to testify!

[Verne_Frantz]

What is a "jurisdication"??

Now, does "victum" still seem like such a big deal?

[fdny37]

This is no knock on attorneys but I feel King Midas makes a legitimate point. How many times have peolpe been told by an attorney___Well....you really don't have much of a case because the guy doesn't know anything or own anything. It really is a sad state of affairs for the guy who always wanted a muscle car but really doesn't know much about them. He's the guy that's going to take the hit. I've been a car guy all my life and I didn't realize how important it is to do your homework and ask a ton of questions.

[firstgenaddict]

What you will get is alot of car dealers that will become dumb and clueless when they go to court... the same ones that were the know it all experts when they sold you the car.

[COPO427]

I still like the rope over a tree like they did in the real west.

[PeteLeathersac]

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I still like the rope over a tree like they did in the real west.

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When you've got the tree and rope set up, it'd be nice to let this guy be one of the first to swing....he's that 'Lex Luthor' of the Chevy world that sells the 'aged documents' on eBay. .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-72-C...1QQcmdZViewItem


~ Pete

[rsatz28]

He know's exactly what the winners are doing with these, and he know's it by keeping the id's private. He is contributing to problem.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-72-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

NOTE .........THESE ARE MADE FOR NOVELTY AND PERSONAL USE ONLY ,NOT FOR RESELLING OF CARS

[firstgenaddict]

I believe that if hit by some law suits ebay will expose the auction winners...
There is no legitimate reason to have an aged document like the ones he sells. Not for fun... for wow factor... nothing, he can put all the disclaimers he wants in his ad.

It is like fake birth certificates, SS cards, etc. You may want a birth certificate that says you are John Wayne and it may be neat to have it, it may even be a conversation piece but that does not make the producer of the document any less guilty of forgery.
The difference is that he is guilty of a crime and for some reason the forgery of "authentic documents" is not a crime.
Disclaimer or not doesn't this guy bear some responsibility for the illegitimate use of his docs?
He knows exactly what they are being used for... or else he would sell them with out the "aging".

[elcamino72]

Guys, first off, I really appreciate all of the positive comments. Second, I have all the faith in the world in the group of attorneys I’m working with, if fraud happens, we are committed to flushing it out. As for what this can cost, it all depends, every state is different and in Pennsylvania you are not allowed to advertise a flat fee for work like this because each case is different. Hopefully a majority of these cases will only take a phone call and a letter or two and they can be settled, if the odd few go further, we’ll have the ammunition and knowledge to be successful. Expert witnesses will not be a problem, car experts are no different than medical experts, they are still experts, once qualified in front of a judge, and the expert can charge a reasonable fee and have all his expenses paid for testifying. As for the aged paperwork, I agree what is the legitimate use/need for it?

Thanks again guys for supporting us on this, it means a lot. I really want to make a difference and I have my whole career to do so. I’m a car enthusiast, first and foremost, I own over 8 classic/collector vehicles and I know what the hobby means to all of you guys. I know if we all work together we can make a difference. *(these smileys are the greatest)*

Bryan Shook
[email protected]
717-975-9446

[ohhawk]

The pioneers get the arrows but they eventually get the land.


Best to you and your firm!