Does anyone agree with my view over at TC? - Page 4

hep1966 · #31 12-19-2005, 04:39 PM

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Tired of the never ending hypocrisy.

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Agreed

**Xplantdad** · #32 12-19-2005, 04:41 PM

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You know sometimes people loose sight of what this car hobby/love is all about. I love the cars for what they represent or represented back then, culture, art, fun, etc. Meeting great people along the way.

All these continuing talks about making trim tags, POP's etc. just muddy the waters and I get tired of swimming in the pool after while. So with that said I am afraid as hell of the IRS and the Law, and making something that is against the law to the level of VIN's, Trims, etc. for a car does not even enter my mind as an option. Even if making something for a car was close to being against the law or not cool I wouldn't do it. I would be worried that me or someone else would get in trouble over the car I "restored". There are many more things to be worried about to be adding that to the list. That is my final answer.

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That's it exactly, Stuart...I agree with you 100%

Johnny Horsepower · #33 12-19-2005, 05:44 PM

The problem is 2 owners from now the car gets passed off as #s matching.
Making a car correct is fine. I see no need for forging vins. That is making a fake. Use all the right parts, but i disagree with trying to make it appear it is an original #s matching engine, tranny or rear end.

A side note, i discussed this before with a vette guy and complained of it being accepted in thier circles.
His response was that guys don't want to lose the points in Judging.....
That's like telling a proffessor "i cheated because i wanted an A"
can't condone vin or tag doctoring

John

**TimG** · #34 12-19-2005, 05:49 PM

You can no longer get a replacement trim tag through Bloomington or NCRS. You can get a replacement engine through both if it is prepared correctly. Kind of interesting that the engine can make it and the trim tag cannot.

**allcamaro** · #35 12-19-2005, 06:18 PM

I think the book might be wrong, the feature car is a 69 Chevelle Daytona Yellow and its not a SS396.

**Mr70** · #36 12-19-2005, 06:23 PM

COPO's are the exception.
The books talking ordinary RPO.

**PeteLeathersac** · #37 12-19-2005, 06:43 PM

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You can no longer get a replacement trim tag through Bloomington or NCRS. You can get a replacement engine through both if it is prepared correctly. Kind of interesting that the engine can make it and the trim tag cannot.

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When judged and accepted at Bloomington, are the non original 'prepared' engines presented and acknowledged as a re-creation or an original....or is it purposely not mentioned and the judges don't want to know so they can give their blessing on it if the job has been done "well enough"??? . If this last part is true, are you out of the running if you do admit it's not the 'real' original? ~ Pete

Enoch · #38 12-19-2005, 09:42 PM

Tim, the reason trim tags get busted is because the repros can be told from original. Not all restamps can be proven.

**TimG** · #39 12-19-2005, 10:37 PM

If you disclose your engine as a restamp, the car is judged accordingly. Bloomington will "box" the car and it will not be eligible for Gold, NCRS will check to see if the casting dates, and casting numbers are correct and they will judge the broach, assembly stamp and VIN derivative for accuracy. If Typical Factory Production, it should receive all points.

Johnny Horsepower · #40 12-20-2005, 06:11 PM

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If you disclose your engine as a restamp, the car is judged accordingly. Bloomington will "box" the car and it will not be eligible for Gold,

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Will the third seller down the line let it out of the "box" and into a anonymous auction as a"#s matching car"
It's not the guy doing it with honest intentions that worries me.......its the theif 2 transactions later

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