"New" '69 Motion Camaro's

[camarojoe]

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Somehow we've developed into a time where a green/green 2bbl 307 '69 Nova with wear and tear is selling for 6-8k and anything else worth a damn is 5 to 6 figures????

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Hey, whats your beef with green Novas? Seriously though, I see where both sides of this fence are coming from... personally, i could care less about what anyone is building in 2005 from a "new" supercar standpoint...Real supercars IMO were built 30+ years ago, not this year or last...Not to say I don't like or would mind owning a 2002 ZL-1 or a "new" Motion Camaro, or whatever, I just don't see them as anything like the real supercars of the 60s and 70s... they are cool cars, but theres no "mystique" about them. What makes older cars neat to me is how they survived years of being just regular cars that weren't cherished or worth much, beat on, used and abused, and have 30+years of history... These new cars roll off the showroom floor as collectibles, and will never turn into someones daily beater or race car like so many of the original supercars did...I don't know why that makes me think less of them, but it does... However, for everyone that feels like me, there is someone else out there that thinks a built in 2005 69 Motion camaro would be the shiznits and is lining up to drop down a big deposit for one to sit in their garage and look at and wax on. To each his own i guess, which is what the hobby is all about...

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Somehow we've developed into a time where a green/green 2bbl 307 '69 Nova with wear and tear is selling for 6-8k and anything else worth a damn is 5 to 6 figures????

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Hey, whats your beef with green Novas? Seriously though, I see where both sides of this fence are coming from... personally, i could care less about what anyone is building in 2005 from a "new" supercar standpoint...Real supercars IMO were built 30+ years ago, not this year or last...Not to say I don't like or would mind owning a 2002 ZL-1 or a "new" Motion Camaro, or whatever, I just don't see them as anything like the real supercars of the 60s and 70s... they are cool cars, but theres no "mystique" about them. What makes older cars neat to me is how they survived years of being just regular cars that weren't cherished or worth much, beat on, used and abused, and have 30+years of history... These new cars roll off the showroom floor as collectibles, and will never turn into someones daily beater or race car like so many of the original supercars did...I don't know why that makes me think less of them, but it does... However, for everyone that feels like me, there is someone else out there that thinks a built in 2005 69 Motion camaro would be the shiznits and is lining up to drop down a big deposit for one to sit in their garage and look at and wax on. To each his own i guess, which is what the hobby is all about...

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Amen!

[Mr70]

Are those shiznits available in Green?

[JoeG]

What's coming out of GM is not catching anyones attention and for a Supercar Dealer from the past ,that's still with us and in control of the project, with some of the old crew to put an Old Motion SUPERCAR together is about the coolest Last Hurrah I can think of.-----My only regret is that I can't afford one, but knowing they're out there is what the Hobby is about----------------Motion ,Yenko, Harrell, Dana, Nickey--etc.---

[JChlupsa]

Come on Joe, I bet Joel would take that old Chevelle of yours as a Trade-in for a newer car

[JoeG]

Maybe Jeff,--But in my case turning the ignition switch wouldn't seem the same----------

[Supergas990]

I'm not sure what to think about this. On the one hand, these cars will be totally different than the cars he created in the day. On the other hand, it seems a little bit like high dollar Beenie Babies (you all remember when those were the rage). I know it's not the best analogy, but I think it's difficult to create a collectible.

You can create limited edition cars and they will be cool and sell for BIG $$$$$, but you can never recreate the magic of the era that led to these cars. You can't go back to the future.

Just because its old or rare doesn't make it collectible or an antique.

JMHO

Blair

[RichSchmidt]

PersonallyI feel,that all the arguements are moot.Some supercar builders reissued modified vintage cars and called them originals even though they were made"super"40 years after they were built new.Some super car builders aligned forces with current dealers to create late model examples of their old supercars.Joel rosen is the only one who can say that he has built supercars from both new cars and used ones.How about a 72 camaro that was given the pahse 3 treatment in 1976,They still fetch big bucks despite never seing the inside of Baldwin Chevrolet.Now it would be even more interesting if Joel used some of the new Dynacorn bodies and a bolt on front clip,to make and "All New" 69 Camaros.If nothing else,it would give us GM guys a chance to get even with the Musang guys who taunt us that there isnt a new Camaro to compete with the Mustang.

[55chevy]

Personally I wish Joel would go back into business as Motion Performance and start modifying cars like he did back in the day. ANY car a customer brought to him for the "treatment". I have a 74 Nova that would be right at the top of the list for something like that... And it would be a genuine MOTION car then, would it not? If something like that could be done at a reasonable cost I'd be right there. And not to make it some "instant collector item".. but make it the bad ass car that "I" want.. just like all the cars he built back in the day. And I tell you what. I'd drive the piss out of it on a daily basis.. Just like all the Motion cars of past had done to them.

that would be awesome.

[RichSchmidt]

ANd lets be honest about the pricingI believe I read somewhere that a phase 3 70 camaro cost over 10 grand at the time,and that was about the same as to cost of a new Ferrari at the time,and also about half the cost of a nice house in the suburbs of Jersey at the time.That would put th same car today at costing 200 grand.