Royal info wanted

[Belair62]

Sounds like you were somewhat close to this action Bobcat...

[Bobcat]

Sorry, I get a little carried away, too much information,LOL

[Belair62]

I like reading it....how dod you gather this type of info hmmm ?

[Bobcat]

Belair62, TIme machine. Move to Detroit and relive my life. LOL

[Bobcat]

Hey, Belair62, I had a 61 Impala Convert Red white top 283 170hp Powerglide, in high school. It was orginally my mothers car. Just before I turned 16 they gave it to me. The rear end was starting to howl. Since we owned a scrap yard we had a '63 Biscayne 2 dr sedan with a 4:11 posi. Swapped the whole pig into the '61. The day I turn 16 I had the car parked in front of the house and some drunks in a pick up slamed into the frontend. My parents saw it, I slept through it. Woke up next day walked around the backend went to open the drivers door and it was stuck. I stepped back and saw my front end was now customized.
Well, at one of my uncles yards, down from ours, they had a '61 BelAir with a good front clip. You'll never guess. The front fenders where FIBERGLASS. By the time the car came back from the body shop we had a 1960 Impala come in with a 348. I couldn't pass it up. So now I had a 348, 4:11 Covertible that got it's rearend kicked everytime I went up against one of those new 1967 Camaro SS 350. Oh, well.life is good. LOL

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
Belair62, TIme machine. Move to Detroit and relive my life. LOL

[/ QUOTE ] Thanks but you sound older than Sixtiesmuscle !!!....Glass fenders on a 61 Belair? hmmmm

[Bobcat]

Yes, fiberglass. Back than we didn't have cheap Chinese produced sheet metal replacement panels. The new GM parts where very expensive compaired to the value of the car. It was comon to have aftermarket fiberglass replacement fenders becuse it was cheap.

[GOAT72]

Bobcat,
How can you refer to Mr. Schornack as a "glorified porter" and that he "claims to have invented Royal"?

In Steve Stratham's book, "GTO: The Great One" Schornack claims he wasn't even HIRED by Dick Jesse at Royal until 1963. He states that he beat the Royal cars at Detroit Dragway with his 1959 Catalina, and so an impressed Jesse offered him a job at Royal.
How could Schornack NOT even be a line mechanic at Royal when he was HIRED by performance manager Dick Jesse himself and worked 6-days a week doing Bobcat conversions?

Also, Schornack explains his involvement in the testing of the RA V in Florida -- with Mr. Wangers, among others. If Shornack was such a poor racer, then why was he even IN the '69 GTO? There are photos of him in Statham's book racing the crystal turquoise '69 GTO with the RA IV -- which they later installed a Ram Air V into. Who put the RA V into the car... Mr. Wangers... or Schornack.

I am not biased in your Wangers Vs. Schornack mud-throw. I think BOTH men made their own contributions toward the legacy, but to completely denounce Schornack's involvement is wrong.
Please feel free to access miltschornack.com and click on his RA V page-- Schornack bought one of the factory RA Vs.
How'd he pull THAT deal off with no involement with PMD?
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
I am sure you'll have the fortitude to answer: Where did you get this information from? Were you THERE? Did you know George DeLorean? Schornack? The Wilsons? Dick Jesse?

If so, this would put you in the late 60s-early 70's age-bracket, which I don't think is the case.

Finally, I have located a guy who is providing me with photocopies of dozens of old magazine articles concerning Schornack; you have piqued my interest with your debasing attitude toward this individual.

Thanks for any help you can provide with your answer.

~GOAT72
(newbie)

Bobcat said:
<i>Unfortunately there is a past, glorified porter, from Royal that is constantly resurfacing. I read he calims to have invented Royal and the Ram Air program. This guy wasn't even a line mechanic. Whenever Royal sent him out with another Royal Employee or even "Doc" Watson, this guy couldn't even post as fast a time. The magazines bare this out. The Royal Story keeps getting better and better.</i>

[JLP]

The pics I sent Jeffh here contain pics of Milt driving the RA V car and there are other pics of him around/working on the car. Can't seem to shrink them. I can e-mail them or contact Jeffh on this site. Here is pix of '69 FB he was driving for Royal also. Beautiful Orange/white car. Black & white only photos.

[JLP]

Same car front view.