Interview with Mary Barra

[TomP]

An electric car appeals to me about as much as an electric chair.
It's one thing to claim the numbers based on ideal conditions but when it's cold, raining and dark that electric cars range goes down. If i'm running low on gas I can pull into any gas station. I won't need to get a hotel for the night because there are people ahead of me at the charging station which takes an hour or more each car.

What happens when there is a big power outage like a windstorm? Power is out for weeks...

Certainly one needs to plan any trip in an electric car... no spur of the moment "Well I have never taken this route before" trips across the vast open plains the way I like to do.

This video should be required viewing for those wanting to get an electric car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqEwLle8xKU

[jdv69z]

Originally Posted by JoeC

The next generation nuclear power plants such as the Fast-neutron reactors may change everything

Expensive to build but can make a lot of electric power with low waste

It either nuclear or fossil fuels. Or less available power/electricity.

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Insider has further commentary:

Says that GM has basically modeled its future around the ideas found in this article from back in 2018:

https://www.greencarcongress.com/201...20-hayden.html

And I went back to read the mission statement from GM and sure enough here is the statement:

"At General Motors, we are in the midst of a company transformation to win in our core automotive business and the future of personal mobility. Our vision is to create a world with Zero Crashes, Zero Emissions and Zero Congestion. The latest step in this journey is the development of our all-new battery electric vehicle architecture, which will pave the way for General Motors’ all-electric future".

Here: https://www.gm.com/our-stories/techn...ic-future.html

[Lee Stewart]

GM unveils 10 future EVs, new batteries and its plan to beat Tesla

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...cid=spartandhp

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

GM unveils 10 future EVs, new batteries and its plan to beat Tesla

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...cid=spartandhp

Right now I am a bit creeped out.

The GM insider decided to comment on today's events:

https://www.generalmotors.green/prod...r/0304-ev.html

"The recent Fox Business interview was a complete disaster for the company...many Dealers are up in arms telling GM "Stop you are going to put us out of business" especially dealers outside urban areas".

"Your commentary on the EPA in the other thread hits close to home on many issues but let me red pill you here":

"It is not about the environment but that is the presentation being used, It is about the money, all about the money"

"Gas taxes are tough to raise currently, too many political rear ends in the fire and you are messing with the oil companies and the lobbyists that represent them, so know this big oil wants you to drive your car because that is how they make money and that money gets returned politically.

So why EV's? The money to be gained through taxation is just huge. You will be taxed by the mile. Think of every road as being a toll road. That is the end game here and there is a curve here through adaptation that is anticipated to do the following in this order:

First as more people buy EV's Gas taxes will need to necessarily rise to the point where you will be taxed right out of your ICE car. You will be able to keep it but you will pay so much for fuel EV's will become cheaper to operate.

After EV's are mainstreamed then the combination of tax to operate and the infrastructure and convenience limitations will cause most drivers to actually reduce travel. At this stage autonomous vehicles are projected to take hold with the market causing your car of choice to be a rental,- Meaning you no longer own it you call it for a ride. This all happens in a future projected to have effective urban mass transit for those who need to commute with many teleworking from home.

So here is the take away-GM is chasing a future where you do not own a car, and you do not actually drive one either. It is fully automated and it will take you where you can afford to pay to go.

In other words a futuristic Johnny cab. They do not care about you because you want to drive. If things go to plan GM will not have a product you want to buy - they know that".

[JKZ27]

This has been a topic of interest for me because I work a the dealer.

[Lee Stewart]

[Charley Lillard]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/busin...Rn5vOMWodpWOAg

[Tenney]

Or pursue both autonomy as well as driver involvement and give the customer the option to decide the use occasion ...?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoe.../#1400001d22ea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9LS7O7UqZ0

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Point:

400 miles is not shabby. So what this means on a trip is that you will have to plan to stop to recharge at 6 hours under ideal conditions perhaps 5 hours with hills max. If you are hauling a load or towing even less. As long as you route to hit chargers and you do not mind the wait.

Counterpoint:

There is zero anxiety anything with ICE. I can go as far as I want all I do is buy a tank of gas.back on the road in under 6 minutes usually the cup of coffee and the restroom break takes longer so we will say 10 minutes to be fair.

Lets have some fun with this...so I am gonna hash tag and bold (#) where EV's achieve parity with ICE right now.

Travel when I want #

Travel where I want

Travel the route I want.

No anxiety with Hills and mountains

No anxiety with Hauling-Towing

No anxiety with wilderness Off road trips

No anxiety using PC's watching movies, or charging phones in vehicle.

No anxiety with a long delay in traffic due to a wreck or traffic jam.

No anxiety due to long lines to fuel.

No anxiety due to delays while fueling is occurring.

No anxiety as to my cost to travel via taxation.

No anxiety as to repairs if it breaks down (pretty much anyplace)

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Ok I see only 1 # listed above anyone disagree?

The insider warned me that GM likely monitoring this thread because it contains Mary's name in the title.

I say good.