#13 is lucky if you are a Camaro Engineering Pilot

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The vin on the 68 looks funky.. </div></div>

Agreed. That's why it is posted in the trivia section. We have made no effort to validate the owners information on this car.

[scuncio]

Great history on the '67. Glad you are documenting this information with first-hand sources.

[1967Z28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve,

Yes... on the 1968 car click Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/spec...el-trivia.html

Also interesting tidbits to come... Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/prot...g-reports.html

Enjoy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

I have the '67 Z docs. Was told by GM not to share them publicly. Congrats on getting permission to do so. Did you get the VINs of the first 25?

I have an original copy of the Concealed Windshield Wipers report. Kind of a neat historical piece.

[JoeC]

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We are evaluating to see if the bumperettes were properly physically attached to the car or staged for the photos using something else to attach them for the photo shoot?? Yes we will be looking for the holes during the restoration.

BTW... good news- #N100013 is getting Lacquer paint just like N100001 did. </div></div>

could the bumperettes have been added to the photo by airbrush?

It was common back in the day to add or remove options or emblems by airbrush like to day you can alter a photo digitally with Photoshop

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1967Z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve,

Yes... on the 1968 car click Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/spec...el-trivia.html

Also interesting tidbits to come... Here: http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/prot...g-reports.html

Enjoy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

I have the '67 Z docs. Was told by GM not to share them publicly. Congrats on getting permission to do so. Did you get the VINs of the first 25?

I have an original copy of the Concealed Windshield Wipers report. Kind of a neat historical piece. </div></div>

Jon,

From my prospective we were able to build on the relationship created during the research for my book &quot;Echoes of Norwood&quot;.

I have asked Corey Lawson to opine further on his perspective on the research and how it happens with respect to the pilot car registry site:

&quot; I suppose working in collaboration with the General Motors Heritage Center is like proving your moxy in a difficult situation. They are accustomed to being called upon to constantly help with the projects of others and being forgotten afterwards. These projects are most often attempted from the ease of a computer keyboard without the investment of human interaction. Consequently, the relationships never gain the traction of being unemcumbered by the issues of trustworthiness. If you are a reader of the content of pilot car registry, you will know that the vast majority of research is done in person and substantial relationships are forged in trust and integrity. Our relationships with Greg Wallace, Christo Datini, and John Kyros have been forged in this way. Not only do we document the pilot prototypes, but we have single handedly documented the Electric Drive Divisions activities within General Motors during the 1960's. This was done at the bequest of Christo Datini to fully document Electrovaire II and Electrovan. Both are vehicles owned and
showcased by the museum. This research comprised a substantial investment of time and financial outlay to achieve. The end result is over 2,000 pages of original documents that were obtained by Pilot Car Registry from the hands of the men that built these programs. All of these documents, as well as, the executive summary will be offered to the Heritage Center without compensation. Upon full disclosure of our relationship interactions with the General Motors
Heritage Center.....it becomes a template for others to follow that wish to enjoy the full cooperation of their archives and documentation. And in extraordinary circumstances.....even leads to extaordinary gestures.....as seen in the letter of recommendation for collegiate acceptance provided by Mark Reuss to Logan Lawson, (my son) the founder of Pilot Car Registry&quot;.

&quot;Additionally, all parties agree in principal to share the aforementioned research without monetary gain. Very often, this is not the objective in mind for people requesting the help of the Heritage Center&quot;.

&quot;And finally-relationships that are based upon truth and integrity respond well when the parties are requested to work jointly in corporate displays for General Motors. This is the picture of the involvement of Pilot Car Registry at the unveil of the 2016 Camaro at Belle Isle and the participation of these researchers at the Kettering Benefit Auction at Barrett Jackson 2016&quot;.

Corey Lawson

[70 copo]

Jon,

You also asked about the VIN's of the 67 Z/28's - yes we have the list however we are going to protect it at this time.

It's a totally different position than sharing the pilot/prototype VIN's.....those builds are all about protecting proprietary cowl tag info and pilot, prototype, and handmand parts and their respective markings.

As of now assembly line Z cars have vins protected on the site.

[1967Z28]

Thanks, Phil.

[cook_dw]

Is this like a secret society?? Where do I go to learn the super secret Moose Lodge hand shake.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

[iluv69s]

If I remember, the VINs of thr first 25 Z's were published years ago. I believe it was a the US Camaro club newsletter if I recall.