stolen camaro found out of state

[kwhizz]

Bring back the day's of having a Justice System in our Country.........Instead of a Legal System where there is no Black or White.........Where's Detective Joe Friday when you need him!!!

[Pulnaway]

Who here would restore a car without having a title? Stupidity is not an excuse. I feel sorry for the kid, but this is his fathers fault.

[Lynn]

Read part of the thread at NastyZ. Also read the second owner's build thread. The pics below are from a link in that build thread. Several posts assume the new guy put an engine in it. He did not. I am 100% certain we do not have all the facts. Here is what the smart a$$ in me wants to say:

The new "owner" decided to replace the factory muncie 4 speed that came with the car, but was not installed, with an automatic. Not sure if the tranny was numbers matching, but it AND the engine that was in it but not running (only needed a distributor and some tlc apparently) may be. Again, don't have all the facts. Anyway, clearly the Camaro gods simply pooped on his parade for dissing the 4 speed. Instant Karma and all that.

Now that I got that bit of foolishness off my chest, as stated, we simply don't have all the facts. Second "owner" says the title was "clean as a whislte." He may be a perfectly honest gentleman. I have no reason to believe otherwise. I SUSPECT "clean as a whistle" means no research into previous owners. Hmmm, you say, why would I want to research previous owners on a car with a clean title? Take a look at the picture below. Notice anything missing from that column? Why yes, it is the KEY CYLINDER!!!! If I am looking at a car without the key cylinder, I am going to do some real digging into its history. Not saying the guy didn't do that. Just saying there was certainly a big enough red flag to warrant some serious investigation.

Regardless of whether the 2nd owner SHOULD HAVE OR ACTUALLY DID DO THE INVESTIGATION, the original owner, if he is in fact the owner, gets his car back.

One last thing. Everyone keeps saying they need to go after the thief. While I agree, I also believe they need to go after the scum bag that "created" the new "clean as a whistle" title. Had to be some fraud involved in getting that done.

[GaryC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bring back the day's of having a Justice System in our Country.........Instead of a Legal System where there is no Black or White.........Where's Detective Joe Friday when you need him!!! </div></div>



Today...your guilty until proven innocent.

[70 copo]

Poor kid....

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Poor kid.... </div></div>

No kidding. Hope they catch the pus gargling wank that stole the car to begin with. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img]

[x77-69z28]

That steering column should have gotten someone's spider senses tingling! As in no ignition cylinder. I personally have never bought a car without an ignition cylinder.

[jannes_z-28]

Every time I read stories like this I'm amazed on how it is possible in a country like the USA to be able to title a stolen car.

Why aren't the car registry under control by federal government? Why can't a state registry check into another states records? Why isn't a cars stolen report spread to all other states for them to check before giving out a title?

It is clearly an administrative fault by your government.


Something like this could never happen over here, no way. Only way would be to change the VIN to one from a non stolen scraped car.

By a system like ours there is no market for stolen cars here, stolen cars are taken out of the country and sold in Russia or other former Soviet countries.


Jan

[twertsy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Every time I read stories like this I'm amazed on how it is possible in a country like the USA to be able to title a stolen car.

Why aren't the car registry under control by federal government? Why can't a state registry check into another states records? Why isn't a cars stolen report spread to all other states for them to check before giving out a title?

It is clearly an administrative fault by your government.


Something like this could never happen over here, no way. Only way would be to change the VIN to one from a non stolen scraped car.

By a system like ours there is no market for stolen cars here, stolen cars are taken out of the country and sold in Russia or other former Soviet countries.


Jan </div></div>

With all due respect Jan, our government can't even build a website. 9 out of 10 times your proposal would make it worse.........

[Billohio]

Our states each want to be in control of something and the revenue it generates. Can't blame them for wanting to keep it local. Our problem in Ohio. Is Columbus gets a big road project done then rest of us away from town have horrible roads.
No reason a stolen car data base couldn't work.
Doesn't help when some states allowed a bill of sale like the recent zl-1 that was sold. I think was in Georgia. No title needed there