LS6 Build Sheet

[Brucebodyman]

I have the build sheet in question from the start of this thread in front of me and it still has the door panel cardboard on the back of it. Jen jacs cut the door panel around the build sheet.. Better that than risk damage to it.. I bought the car back today. Same as it was when I sold it to Jen jacs a few years ago. Primer faded and dirty but pretty much same shape. With a few extra parts. This car is in the LS-6 registry. And I know the history and previous owners back to the early 90's

[rubbinisracing]

Bruce, I'm having a hard time following the ownership history of the car.....You live in Michigan and found the car which was delivered new to a dealer in Michigan. Then you sold the car to Joey in Garden City, GA, then it ends up in Ohio where "Ron" puts it on eBay. You buy it from Ron and the car is headed back or already in Michigan again. Is that correct?

That car has traveled more miles in the past few years than any of mine!

[Brucebodyman]

Here's how it goes. Car was sold new in Bay City MI. Car lived it's whole life there. A friend of mine bought it from a guy in Bay City I went with him to pick it up and hauled it on my trailer. That was I think 1992. At the time we picked it up all the NOS stickers were on all the sheet metal panels. Some installed on car some in boxes. My buddy gutted the car to an empty shell and had a place in Detroit dip the car and then had it dipped in e-coat primer. When he got it back it looked like a new body. The car sat that way in a garage until late 2006 or 7 can't remember for sure. He asked me if I would help him sell it. When he told me what he wanted I bought it. After figuring what it would cost to do the car correctly I realized my pockets weren't that deep so I put it up for sale on team chevelle. Joey at Jen jacs called. At the time I had no idea who he was. We struck a deal I delivered the car to him a couple of days before Christmas in either 2006 or 7. I assumed he still had it. Then I saw this thread about a build sheet and recognized it.Thanks by they way to whoever started the thread!!!! I checked the pic I had saved in my computer to refresh my memory and as I suspected it was the car I had sold. So I checked the e-bay ad car was pretty much how I sold it. So since im much better of financially now i thought i would take another shot at it Called the guy went down today and now I own it again. Guy I bought it from today said Jen jacs had it on e-bay about 5 years ago and he bought it from them. Didn't mean to write a book here but hope it cleared up the chain of ownership.

[TAR6569]

That's not a broadcast sheet. I don't know what those were called, it has the info from the cowl tag, with some options and were mostly used by the person putting the seat cover on. I have some Chevy 2 broadcast sheets from 68/69 (Body and Chassis Broadcast copies), they used those and the cards for each car.

When I took a tour of the Flint plant 2 years ago, I asked the tour guide what they do with all the paper. He said it gets thrown away. There's a spot on the line where most of that stuff gets removed, papers and inspection stickers, etc.

Warren

[marxjunk]

its official name is a GMAD...i believe...

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's not a broadcast sheet. I don't know what those were called, it has the info from the cowl tag, with some options and were mostly used by the person putting the seat cover on. I have some Chevy 2 broadcast sheets from 68/69 (Body and Chassis Broadcast copies), they used those and the cards for each car.</div></div>

Not sure which document you are referring to, but the one I posted is in fact called a build sheet. Could also be called the build manifest.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I took a tour of the Flint plant 2 years ago, I asked the tour guide what they do with all the paper. He said it gets thrown away. There's a spot on the line where most of that stuff gets removed, papers and inspection stickers, etc.</div></div>

I used to give those tours at Flint Assembly (34 years ago).

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marxjunk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its official name is a GMAD...i believe... </div></div>

Not that I've ever hear. But - I never worked in a GMAD plant. Flint was a Fisher Body/Chevrolet marriage and was completely Chevrolet managed by the time I started. All the plants I worked in after that were GM Truck and Bus.

K

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Would you please provide some kind of proof that supports your statement that build sheets were supposed to be removed and thrown away? Thanks. </div></div>

Reporting back with a quick update -

I have heard back from my contacts at Flint Assembly, Fort Wayne Assembly, Arlington Assembly and Detroit-Hamtramck. They have provided Manufacturing Process Sheets which define cleaning the car of any extraneous labels, stickers, papers, build documents, loose material, etc. on either the final line or &quot;care&quot; (pre shipping) lines.

I also asked owners of Assembly Manuals (PAD/PDMs) for 66/67 A car, 68/69 A car, 70-72 A car, 73-87 Truck and 67/69 F car. The A car guys have reported finding pages documenting key placement and window sticker (Mulroney Label) location but nothing relative to clean up. I have not heard back from the vintage Truck or F car guys.

K

[britgrnz]

My dad worked at a Chev. dealer for 30+ years getting new cars ready for delivery.Wash,wax &amp; undercoating.Clean all stickers from windows. He used to bring home a stack of build sheets every once in awhile so the kids could use them to draw on,or use them to start the wood stove.When i worked there in the summer i always found them in with the wheel cover packaging,or laying on the floor.Can't remember any special cars-just a few Z/28's and Vettes{Mid 70&quot;s}.Most of these cars/trucks came from the Janesville plant.

[DW31S]

I'll add my 2 cents. I have worked for a GM dealership for 32 years and before the Obama/GM debacle we had 3 showrooms and five franchises including Chevrolet. I sold new cars (as id my dad, grandfather, brother) there for quite some time, and am now the wholesale mgr. I also ran the new-car get-ready dept. for 3 years, and like one of the above contributors added, the cars were (I want to say thoroughly) cleaned and prepped before retail delivery. We didn't go as far as removing door panels, carpet, or gas tanks, but any paperwork that was found in the cars was discarded. When the cars arrived on the haulers, the drivers had a manifest with the options listed on it and we at the dealership had to check the car against said manifest to insure all the options for each particular car were present. This was an important step in receiving the cars from GM, because if something was missing (and it was from time-to-time) we only had so long to file a claim with the factory. The driver got a copy and the dealer got a copy after we (the dealer) signed off. We threw that paper in the car, and it, along with anything that was loose or visible to the clean-up dept. was thrown away. When I was in sales and we/I delivered a new car to the retail purchaser, any paperwork the clean-up shop missed was thrown away. Often the customer requested that the window sticker be removed and thrown away. It technically was/is against the law to remove that sticker without the buyer's permission. So the amount of build sheets that do exist today is somewhat remarkable considering the amount of people that had the chance to discard them.
Not to deviate from the subject of this thread, but I feel this is also an important fact and could tie in to this discussion; I mainly collect Oldsmobiles and Lansing built cars (the only factory that produced the &quot;W&quot; cars) have YET to have a build sheet like the above surface. I can't say for sure about any of the Chevrolet plants, but in all the years and all the &quot;W&quot; cars, not one &quot;verified&quot; build sheet has ben found. The &quot;key punch knock out&quot; or &quot;broadcast cards&quot; have, but no &quot;build sheets&quot;, so maybe some of the Chevy plants that build LS-6s could be the same way.