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11-22-2009, 07:41 PM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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Steven, can you help me? I know you're a Mopar guy but I'm at a loss because I've tried to lay it out. [/ QUOTE ] The only help we need here is for you to answer directly to all of the direct questions I have aked that remain unanswered. 
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#43
11-23-2009, 12:39 AM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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This site give you the numbers from a VIN It uses data from Galen. http://www.mymopar.com/index.php?pid=100 Jan [/ QUOTE ] Tried it with a number off a base 383 4 speed RR hardtop I used to own. Then tried it with a vin off a Six Barrel Runner I used to own and got nothing on either. 
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#44
11-23-2009, 12:44 AM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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Remember, GGs figures came straight from Chrysler Corp. [/ QUOTE ] Just out of curiousity, when and where did Galen come up with these records? I'm assuming it was before they all got thrown in the dumpster in the late 70's-early 80's?
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#45
11-23-2009, 02:36 AM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
Scott,
PM Sent.
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#46
11-23-2009, 02:49 AM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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[ QUOTE ] Remember, GGs figures came straight from Chrysler Corp. [/ QUOTE ] Just out of curiousity, when and where did Galen come up with these records? I'm assuming it was before they all got thrown in the dumpster in the late 70's-early 80's? [/ QUOTE ] Galen got "into" all of this in the early 80s. The IBM cards for the 1968 and newer cars have been destroyed with conflicting stories as to it being a fire or a flooded basement that ended their life. The production figures were something that was kept seperately and MAY still exist. However Chrysler will no longer 'talk" to just anyone about them, you have to have an "in." The V.I.N. break down for a 1969 /6 Charger are as follows: X=Charger P=Premium price class 29=2 door hardtop B=225 6 cylinder engine 9=1969 model year ?=assembly plant ? is because they were built in differnet plants the last 6 digits are the sequence number
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#47
11-23-2009, 05:49 AM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Remember, GGs figures came straight from Chrysler Corp. [/ QUOTE ] Just out of curiousity, when and where did Galen come up with these records? I'm assuming it was before they all got thrown in the dumpster in the late 70's-early 80's? [/ QUOTE ] Galen got "into" all of this in the early 80s. The IBM cards for the 1968 and newer cars have been destroyed with conflicting stories as to it being a fire or a flooded basement that ended their life. The production figures were something that was kept seperately and MAY still exist. However Chrysler will no longer 'talk" to just anyone about them, you have to have an "in." The V.I.N. break down for a 1969 /6 Charger are as follows: X=Charger P=Premium price class 29=2 door hardtop B=225 6 cylinder engine 9=1969 model year ?=assembly plant ? is because they were built in differnet plants the last 6 digits are the sequence number [/ QUOTE ] Let me put this another way. If Galen told me the sky was blue, I'd step outside and check for myself. Aside from that, 442w30, I understand exactly what you're trying to get across here.
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#48
11-23-2009, 03:57 PM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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Aside from that, 442w30, I understand exactly what you're trying to get across here. [/ QUOTE ] I know I can't be the only one! 
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#49
11-24-2009, 04:39 PM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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The only help we need here is for you to answer directly to all of the direct questions I have aked that remain unanswered. [/ QUOTE ] Not only has it been answered by me, but you also answered your own question in a previous post.
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#50
11-24-2009, 11:47 PM
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Re: 69 Charger Find
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[ QUOTE ] The only help we need here is for you to answer directly to all of the direct questions I have aked that remain unanswered. [/ QUOTE ] Not only has it been answered by me, but you also answered your own question in a previous post. [/ QUOTE ] Here are the questions and comments I have been asking from the onset. YOU SAID: Those numbers are from Galen Goviers book on production figures and he does not show any others for non US porduction as he does with others from the same book. Do you know something he doesn't? Those figures came directly from Chrysler. You answered NO to this. YOU SAID:There are no definitive Canadian or export figures in his books. Notice the "S" and the "T" indicators by each stat? Have you seen the key to see what they stand for? Yes, there are. There are many examples of "C"s throughout the book indicating Canadian shipped cars. In fact, my book shows for 1969 Chargers, 29 Canadian shipped Hemi R/Ts, 4 Canadian 500s, and 49 Daytona for 1969 production. The absence of a "C" in the /6 production numbers means there were NONE for these /6 Charger being discuss shipped to Canada. He indicates in his remarks that "E" indicates shipped export cars but there are none indicated throughout my book, and as I posted above may account for the missing figures YOU commented on. YOU SAID:Um, because my 2001 edition of the same book , which I posted above, shows the numbers to be US-spec cars only? And since I am interested in production figures, I try to be on the up-and-up with them? Not until page 4 of this post did you finally post the above that I had been asking for additional CREDIBLE source disputing what I originally posted. This may have been what you were using but you never IDENTIFIED it as such. It does NOT show anything different that what I have been saying. You are assuming that since there are no "Cs" shown for Canadaian shipped /6 cars that there MAY have been some, which is not what GG is showing in his books as I explained above. Also, you indicated that you have other source material that GG also had but never offered to show what it was. Just because you SAY SO means nothing with out some kind of CREDIBLE back up. The REAL unanswered question STILL and has been from the beginning is, just EXACTLY what is it that you have posted that indicates there were any more than the 467 cars shipped? The only thing that you have posted are the very SAME figures I started with. The only thing you have said differently is that the figures I posted were indicative of US shipped cars only. I believe I have offered CREDIBLE proof that there WERE Canadian shipped cars from the info above. Have you noticed the continual use of CREDIBLE used throught my posting in this thread? Just show me some CREDIBLE source that show what the numbers are of OTHER /6 1969 Chargers that you seem to think were built and the discussion can be put to bed.
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