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Old 09-08-2009, 02:10 AM
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I believe that each office had a supply of plates to work with

"back east" you used to be able to tell what county the plates were issued from based on the prefix letters. I assume each office was given a large supply of plates to issue from and there must have been some sort of "regional" issuing office that serviced all the dealers in their "territory" that is why you will see some plates with a "later" letter prefix that may have been issued before and earlier prefix

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Actually, the Golden State made a feeble attempt at the same county identification scheme as back east in the 70's when the 7-digit numbering sequence for standard issue (non-personalized) plates was introduced. Plates that had sequences starting with "1" were for Sacramento County residents, "2" were for LA county, "3" were for Orange County, "4" were for San Diego County, etc. I'm not sure what happened, but it was dropped a few years back.

I had "XJZ 951" a (late '68) '69 RS/SS from Gledhill Chevrolet, and "YZN 712" an April '69 Z from Selman Chevrolet. My November '68 '69 RS/SS has blue tags.

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Old 09-08-2009, 02:29 AM
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My 68 Z28 is from Selman Chevrolet and was a 02E car with VNK--- on the original black plates I still have.
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:05 AM
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California Black Plates

OK, so here is where we are at with this so far :

VNK 123 ... March/April 1968

XFM 863 ... 12A build 12/19/68 SOLD, 124379L511946
XJZ 951 ... Late 1968
XMG 755 ... 10C VN built, sold 11/30/68
XOL 721 ... 09A 124379L500xxx
XON 123 ... May 2, 1968
XRK 691 ... OJ 1969 Camaro
XTY 659 ... 12-06-1968 Sold, 124379L510865


YOW 597 ... 12/23/68, 124379Lxxxx
YXB 405 ... 4/4/69
YZN 712 ... 4/xx/69

ZQY 367 ... 9/15/69
ZVX 549 ... 10/9/69
ZZA 219 ... 5/01/70 (?)

Need more submissions to add to the list here...
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Mine was from 07/69.....

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YMP 718 124379L500578

YAB 739 124379L503396
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YZU --- 04B built, sold 6-6-69
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This may get long...

Lets see where it all goes...

updated:

VNK 123 ... March/April 1968

XFM 863 ... 12A build 12/19/68 SOLD, 124379L511946
XJZ 951 ... Late 1968
XMG 755 ... 10C VN built, sold 11/30/68
XOL 721 ... 09A 124379L500xxx
XON 123 ... May 2, 1968
XRK 691 ... OJ 1969 Camaro
XTY 659 ... 12-06-1968 Sold, 124379L510865


YAB 739 ... 124379L503396
YMP 718 ... 124379L500578
YOW 597 ... 12/23/68, 124379Lxxxx
YXB 405 ... 4/4/69
YZN 712 ... 4/xx/69
YZU 123 ... 04B built, sold 6-6-69

ZQY 367 ... 9/15/69
ZVM 073 ... 7/xx/69
ZVX 549 ... 10/9/69

ZZA 219 ... 5/01/70 (?)
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Default Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates

So with ZAA 000 , where do we feel this ALPHA began?

Note, I gotta think that somewhere in here any affect to our GM cars may reflect the strike out here in Van Nuys.

I forgot the dates where that strike lasted that year...
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Default Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates

Short of contacting someone who worked at DMV(or Folsom ) involved with dissemination,it's going to be very hard to establish a definitive timeline with these.

1968 was the first year CA DMV began using random access computer for processing basic registration documentation.

Also unless you have a definitive first date of sale, assigning an alpha to a build date/VIN won't really be conclusive as some were titled the day they rolled off the truck- and others sat on lots for months. Purely speculation, but i would say there weren't any W 69 MY's, and no Z suffix cars sold in calendar year 68. X and Y were shuffled up- look at that very early 09A car Charlie listed(one of the first off) and the other 09A listed and they are both Y&X respectively. If I had to guess Charlies car sold later than the other 09A example. Then throw the regional series deal into the mix along with a sprinkling of early release blue base and it's muddies it further..
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A general timeline is only what we can gather.

With ALPHAS moving in and out of the timeline, we can only hope to generate possible Black Plate assignment possibilities to promote those who wish to assign AVAILABLE California Black Plates to Titles and Cars.

Lets keep this an open submission and hope to gather possible selections for further use.
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