Petition GM for all GM car info ???

[nova7579]

If they released the records just think about the all the lost sales on 66-67 Nova SS emblems, Z-28 emblems, 427 turbo jet emblems, 67 Chevelle SS emblems and so on. It will never happen, unfortunately.
Brian

[nwz28]

Someone at GM must care a little bit about this subject, because I contacted General Motors Media Archives last year and was able to get a copy of the original factory to dealer invioce for my '77 Z28 (sorry, not a supercar!), free of charge. I was told they currently only have access to some of 1977 and all of the 1978 to present invoices, and that they were stored on microfilm. Let's hope that the pre-1977 stuff still exists!

[Hylton]

This is what the nay sayers have to realize. GM to some extent is already doing this service albeit with the newer cars (post 77). It is also doing it in Canada as everyone knows. Do they receive lawsuits as a result? No. True they are not as exposed however I do not believe this is an issue if we can also sell the responsibility to be good corporte citizens by trying to reduce fraud.

I don't buy them getting sued as a third party over a bad deal. Yes, some deep pocketed fellow who is embarassed he bought a fake car may also include GM in his lawsuit just like someone includes them today because a drunk driver was driving one of their products. This lawsuit would obviously be without merit.

Larry, let's do this.

[Paul_S]

Hylton...exactly. I don't buy the lawsuit thing either.

Who's forehead do we sign for this?

[Daves70SS]

Count me in too,But I think there is a bigger and better way to make a statement over at GM and that is to forget about some papers with a bunch of signatures on it.Why not come up with a standard letter that we could print up off the net with a place to sign our signature at the bottom and also include the current GM vehicles that we own and include the address to send it to that will reach the suits at GM and flood them non stop with hundreds of thousands of letters.Do you realize the manpower it would take to go through all the letters,it would drive them nuts to the point to where they might have to do something to stop it.
What do you guys think?

[Salvatore]

[ QUOTE ]
Whitetop...I would still prefer to keep my car AND repair dollars with GM...or Ford...even though they all have tentacles worldwide...they may have problems but ...I would rather see this company stay an AMERICAN company...maybe I'm just getting old or something...but I'm sick of seeing old American companies get bought up by overseas concerns...just because Toyota et al have plants here doen't mean it's all happy happy...it's still Toyota...JMO

[/ QUOTE ]WOW Bob, You even sound educated! Belair for President! Our first Italian President.

[Belair62]

I just don't care whether imports are better than American made cars...if they can be called that any more.. ...it's the export of dollars and companies that bugs me.

[Salvatore]

Well Bob, You are right. We hardly produce nothing here anymore. Pretty soon the word FACTORY will be removed from our dictionary. I am not for Corporate tax cuts when Corporate sends it over seas anyhow! I have a son leaving Jan. 8th to get ready to go to Iraq. What a disaster this is turning out to be. We are really very upset about this. Another war that looks like no one can win.

[Pantera]

I like the idea of the letters to GM but we need to hold off until just before the end of next year when we present the huge petition to them. It would have more punch with the powers that be. Man would I like to be a fly on the wall when the full BOD brought the subject up.

I have one though about the petiton and or the letters to GM. I think is improtant that we don't want to create a free junk mailing list for GM with out getting what we want out of the deal.

I think a Name-City-Occupation or Job description & number of GM cars owned and perhaps a place on it for a comment by each person would be all that should be considered. That way we can protect the signers priviacy with out getting their mailboxes flooded with more crap. I would encourge a place for a phone # just to lend a touch of validity to the petition with out giving them a huge free mailing list.

I have had many postive responses from quite a few other fourms and I think we should let each interested leader of any of the other forums collect signatures at every car show and event they can attend and then set a Dec 10, 2005 return due date to me, so that we can present it to GM just after the first of the year. That will give us a entire year to be sure that each one of us has a chance to sign one, in person, some where in the country. If we should get as many signatures of those that are as interested as I think, I would hate to have to pay for all the paper.

I don't mind undertaking this as long as I can enlist others help along the way. I am getting lots of very postive responses. If they see how many are showing any interest in the past then perhaps they will get smart and offer this service. I doubt that anybody would mind paying $50 for a litte more for the info they need. I would even pay double that. Goodwill to your previous customers is a good way to build new business and they also will get a free junk mail list out of the deal. I don't see how that could hurt their bottom line.

Pantera

[MikeA]

Not to get off the subject here but we have a '98 Regal and a '01 Venture. We have not had any problems with these vehicles (knock wood ) except for the front seatbelt in the Regal. I cannot bring myself to buy an import!

BTW I'm in.