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What defines an LM1 Camaro? My friend has a 69 Camaro and we are trying to figure out if it is in fact a LM1 car. The car was ordered with a 350 4 barrel, M20 Muncie(has the 10.4" clutch), 12 bolt with 3.31 gears, multi-leaf springs(5) and manual drum brakes. It has the proportioning valve on the driver's side subframe. It is a late 68 Car and it has the walnut insert on the console plate that surrounds the shifter. Didn't GM do this for the early 69s? This was a fathom green RS car with back standard interior. He knows the original owner and he claims to have the protecto plate and original motor. What do we need to look for on the protecto plate and engine what will help designate this as an LM1 car? Will the protecto plate have 5LM1AA on it? The motor, if it is original, should have HQ stamped on the pad, right?
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Andy 1967 Camaro 406 4 speed 1969 C/10 383 5 speed 1969 D300 318 4 speed 1969 Super Bee 383 4 speed 1972 K/5 350 Turbo 350 1972 Duster 340 727 1974 'Cuda 340 4 speed |
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HQ for the Manual (3 or 4 speed) or HR for a auto PG and HS for a auto T350
Also, if it has the original air cleaner on it, it will be chrome like the SS models. Original Motor and POP will tell for sure, but by what you mentioned (drum brakes) sounds like there is a good chance. Not many other early camaros non ss, non z, non pace that were ordered with 12 bolt ML, Muncie 4 speeds, etc. Does it have a single or dual fuel lines? Rich
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Rich Pern 69 Camaro COPO "Tin Soldier" |
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I will have to ask him tomorrow. I can't remember on the fuel lines.
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Andy 1967 Camaro 406 4 speed 1969 C/10 383 5 speed 1969 D300 318 4 speed 1969 Super Bee 383 4 speed 1972 K/5 350 Turbo 350 1972 Duster 340 727 1974 'Cuda 340 4 speed |
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If you get a chance, I would like to see a copy of the TTag, VIN and motor stamping if they are original.
Tks, Rich
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Rich Pern 69 Camaro COPO "Tin Soldier" |
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Here's a site I came across about a year ago that might shed some light for inquiring minds.
http://www.69lm1.com/index.html Interesting site not sure if it is finished yet or not. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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My site, and far from finished!
Rich
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Rich Pern 69 Camaro COPO "Tin Soldier" |
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HQ for the Manual (3 or 4 speed) or HR for a auto PG and HS for a auto T350 Also, if it has the original air cleaner on it, it will be chrome like the SS models. Original Motor and POP will tell for sure, but by what you mentioned (drum brakes) sounds like there is a good chance. Not many other early camaros non ss, non z, non pace that were ordered with 12 bolt ML, Muncie 4 speeds, etc. Does it have a single or dual fuel lines? Rich [/ QUOTE ] The car has dual fuel lines but it doesn't have the original air cleaner. The owner of the motor sold the intake and carb a while back but the complete long block is there.
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Andy 1967 Camaro 406 4 speed 1969 C/10 383 5 speed 1969 D300 318 4 speed 1969 Super Bee 383 4 speed 1972 K/5 350 Turbo 350 1972 Duster 340 727 1974 'Cuda 340 4 speed |
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This should answer most of your questions.
http://www.camaros.org/lm1.shtml I found one minor error in it the other day I still need to correct.....(it's about the SS350 comparison). I'd be intersted in the #'s from the car whenever you get a chance. Thanks!
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