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Old 05-01-2004, 06:38 PM
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Default Is a "Clone' better?

It would seem so, according to this seller. Any info on this car? PS - nice feedback rating, too.

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Old 05-01-2004, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Is a "Clone' better?

Are clones better? It depends on what you're in it for. They're certainly not worth the big bucks--perhaps "medium" bucks. Clones can be really cool if done correctly and they can be driven with much less worry about accidental damage. As in everything, it's the attention to detail that makes the car. If it's done correctly down to the last detail (except VIN, cowl tag, paperwork) but you admit it's a clone car, no one SHOULD hassle you. But, if you're in it for the prestige of owning a "Yenko" then you might be disappointed. You'll be known as the guy with the clone and they'll say it with a hint of disgust. Well-done clones get compliments but most of the guys are likely holding back their disdain for cloning Supercars like the Yenko. They'll walk up to you at a show and compliment your car and then out of earshot they'll piss all over it. Hey, it's a competitive world (and hobby) and if you don't mind being the guy with the clone then you'll probably have a lot of fun with a car like this. I know I would.

This month's Hot Rod has more from David Freiburger on the level of discourse in the hobby: "If there's one thing all car guys have in common, it's opinions. Not agreement, but opinions."

Build a clone or buy a clone, drive it and enjoy it, and ignore the intelligentsia that constantly tries to ruin your fun with their opinions.

This is just my opionion, of course!

Oh, and what is it about putting '67 caps on '68-up Camaros? Oh, and '68-up caps on '67s? You'd think that after all that work a guy would get the caps right.
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Old 05-01-2004, 09:12 PM
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Default 69 Yenko all # matching clone

69 Yenko all # matching clone.......oxymoron?
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Old 05-02-2004, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: 69 Yenko all # matching clone

Here is my take on the whole clone NIGHTMARE of a topic. Here is the definition as it appears in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary...

Main Entry: 1clone
Pronunciation: 'klOn
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek klOn twig, slip; akin to Greek klan to break -- more at CLAST
2 : one that appears to be a copy of an original form <a clone of a personal computer>

"copy of an original" That means not some dumb ass Pro Street 69 Camaro with Yenko Stripes, or even a completely correct Yenko Camaro clone but in red or black, or some POS look alike that has Weld wheels and a big ugly black Autometer tach, etc.

For the record I don't think there is anything wrong with a clone as long as it is done right!!!!! Please everyone stop contributing to the stupidity!!!!!!
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Old 05-02-2004, 07:37 AM
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Well, if was able to drive my #'s PaceCar without worry of other idiot drivers around me, then I would so! However, I, myself, cannot take the financial risk nor the chance to drive my car in the traffic we have here down in the LA basin! But! I will do so in the event of a local show, where as I am aware of my routes taken and familiarity to those who drive within these cities. As for a clone, my PaceCar is enough for me to consider not buying another just to watch it sit some more. So, for me, building a clone of the 69 Camaro design to drive on a regular basis is my choice rather than take the risk in the lost investment of a documented COPO, Yenko, or what have you. I would be just too nervous to ever enjoy that documented car; My clone is for personal enjoyment and the opportunity to actually drive it without worry!
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very surprised at you ,,,,,,,,,FRANKLY!!!!!
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Default Re: 69 Yenko all # matching clone

I found it strange the way this add is worded. It seems he's trying to convince you that his clone is BETTER then the real thing. Almost to the point that he's conviced his clone is not a clone. This whole clone thing seems wrong to me. If you don't have an original then you just have a customized camaro, stop with this whole clone thing, especially when you get one of these clowns taking an original # matching car to pull apart and make a clone out of it and then ask more money than what the original stated out as. Take for example these hemi cuda clones. They take a nice $50k car drop in a $10k hemi, then they want $150k for it. Well it's basically an original nothing and they want all the glue for it like it's something spectacular or something?????, i don't get it
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Old 05-02-2004, 07:43 AM
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However, I do have a problem with restamped blocks( in this situation ), etc...And: with a VIN of 124379Lxxxxxx,--> L <--, and the advertising of having the X22 code REALLY troubles me! .........The following is a copy/paste 'paragraph' of the seller's description:[Headliner door panels, seats, carpet package, dash pad, also the dash cluster is like new all dash lights and wiring has been rebuilt correct Hurst shifter that works great console has been rebuilt all window, door handles, and fans replaced.The paint and body on this Yenko is second to none the body lines and fit on doors hood trunk fenders is all in next to perfect also every part inside the engine is balanced and blueprinted to perfect condition also this car is a original Daytona yellow car the code 76-76 us Daytona yellow also the X22 is a factory big block carb]... ...Lastly; I guess as if one desires to place that much in finances for the final product shown, to me it wouldnt seem to hard to sorta try to better describe exactly what is shown--although it's quite obvious there has been quite an effort to get this to look so nice!....just my thoughts
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Default Re: Is a "Clone' better?

I think that car is a little over the top as far as clones go.Yenko camaros are nice cars to collect,but if I were going to clone one I would not go for a bolt and nut resto.Aside from being insanely expensive and a waste of possible parts that could be used to restore an original car,the fact is that there are now better ways to build these cars.I would have built a 496 stroker with a hydraulic or hydraulic roller cam to replace thae solid lifter 427,I would have used an off the shelf 850 carb not a "last one in the world" collector piece.Maybe even grind all the info off a perfromer intake and bead blast it and dress it as stock.Of course all these mods would be readily visable to a serious collector,but the overall image would appear stock.Such a car could actually boost the collector car market since the car might come across as being more practical then the choppy sounding clacketey original,and the performance on the street would be better.Guys trying to sell bogus cars as the real deal with shady paperwork and stuff like that is really what ruins the hobby.A car like the Ebay clone above does nothing to hurt the hobby.I bet that owner spent more building that car to the level it is then it might have cost to buy a real deal car just 5 years ago.That car is seriously nice and anybody who says they wouldnt want to have that car is full of crap.If it is 3/4 as nice in person as it looks in pics it is a very well done car.Not original,but correct enough to put up a good representation of what a real Yenko camaro is.
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Old 05-06-2004, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Is a "Clone' better?

VERY WELL PUT..........MR. SHMIDT! those that need the parts should have them! those that buy them really should wake up!!!!!!!! the #'s matching components that are needed to maintain a #'s car should be left for those cars!!!!!! not wasted on .KLONES CLONES/ TRIBUTES OR Otherwise! but.....
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